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That's because Digg's changes fundamentally changed how users interact with the site and receive content. From an article at the time: > Protesting at the remo

That's because Digg's changes fundamentally changed how users interact with the site and receive content. From an article at the time: > Protesting at the removal of the upcoming news page, the default setting of "My News", deleted favourites, the apparent front page domination of a handful of publishers, and the removal of the "bury" button (for voting down stories), Digg users flooded the front page with links to rival aggregators and pleaded with chief executive Kevin Rose to turn back the clock. The quality of the content itself dropped off a cliff because of systemic changes. By contrast, Reddit's redesign was a reskin. Lots of people hate it, but Reddit is fundamentally still the same. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/pda/2010/aug/31/digg-redesign-revolt https://www.theguardian.com/technology/pda/2010/aug/31/digg-...

nailer 2y ago
Killing third party apps makes the site unusable. Some embedded videos don't have sound, you now have to click the link to the third party site to be able to hear a video. Meanwhile, moderation has gone insane - I've had an account banned for saying 'Hamas must be destroyed' and another banned for merely explaining JK Rowlings position on transgender matters - not even offering my own. Reddit is very, very far left of the mainstream whose advertisers it is seeking to woo.
- eek2121 2y ago
  There are still 3rd party apps. One for iOS is called Hydra, which looks and works similarly to Apollo.
- whateveracct 2y ago
  Reddit is perfectly usable in iOS Safari
- lovich 2y ago
  The moderation is hyper partisan on all sides. Not just the left. I’ve had accounts banned along the the entire ecosystem of libertarians solely for the audacity of asserting that there were people who described themselves as socialist libertarians, and not declaring that there were five lights and that the philosophy did not exist. The admins don’t care unless it hurts advertising dollars. Reddits leadership has been very consistent on this practice ever since the early days like with u/violentacrez and the jailbait subreddit
  - castlecrasher2 2y ago
    >The moderation is hyper partisan on all sides. Not just the left. It is absolutely just the left. The right-leaning spaces, even /r/conservative, do not ban for "wrongthink" unless it is accompanied with obvious contempt or hostility. Conversely, you'll be banned from a number of subreddits simply for posting in /r/conservative or other labeled-right-leaning subreddits.
    - Gunax 2y ago
      Well I am banned from /r/libertarian for wrong think. I didn't know about other subreddits though.
    - cosmicgadget 2y ago
      90% of /r/conservative's posts only allow flaired users (verified conservatives). There is an ongoing foodfight about verified users expressing neocon ideas like supporting Ukraine. I don't have any recent information on pre-emptive bans, but years ago /r/conservative had a particular mod (I won't name) who did just that.
    - DrillShopper 2y ago
      Go on to Truth Social and post "f*ck Trump" and see how long until you're banned. Do the same on Twitter (or call someone cisgender) and see how long until you're banned. (Spoiler alert - I have done both and have been banned as a result)
      - nailer 2y ago
        I think the point is we don’t want Reddit to become hyper-partisan like truth or bluesky.
        lovich 2y ago
        Nah, I think the point is someone wants to make a obviously false statement out loud to push the Overton window. If you(the general you, not you in particular /nailer)disagree with me, then please explain how any casual observation of the subreddit r/conservative lets someone state that the subreddit does not engage in censorship or banning for wrong think, and with the critical caveat that I will not accept the moderators of r/conservatives statement’s that they don’t engage in censorship as proof on its own
- phailhaus 2y ago
  Reddit doesn't control subreddit mods, and some videos not having sound does not make the site "unusable". That's why it's still so successful.
  - nailer 2y ago
    Yes, that is the problem. The mods they have are far outside the political norm, which does not match their attempts to seek mainstream advertisers, which limits the success of the site and provides an entry point for a decent competitor. Reddit has a large amount of video based subreddits. Videos, if you haven’t seen them before, are a mix of moving pictures and audio. When the audio doesn’t work, it does in fact make many videos unusable.
  - immibis 2y ago
    The ties between Reddit itself and the mods of any notable subreddit are stronger than you think.
- AngryData 2y ago
  Reddit isn't suppressing you or your side specifically, they are assholes to everybody because it is moderated by tons of random people. You never got banned for posting leftist things because you don't post leftist enough things for anyone to be offended by it. Tons of people got banned for speaking a bit too frankly about their support for Luigi, which isn't a left/right issue at all, it is pure class divide.
  - nailer 2y ago
    There’s a significant difference between advocating for murder and commenting that a terrorist group must be destroyed.
    - AngryData 2y ago
      I fail to see a significant difference. Both positions are advocating for the death/destruction of individuals and groups of select people. One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. And you didn't have to straight up advocate killing or death to get banned for supporting Luigi, just saying you understand his position and motives and that extremely wealthy CEOs aren't special and shouldn't be treated as such caught swaths of people in bans. You can also talk all day about how you want Russian or Chinese oligarchs to die, but an American oligarch is somehow a step too far? Reddit as a whole has been bought and paid for, and the majority of subs have also individually been bought and paid for. And if you don't stick to the moderate positions or a major media supported political zeitgeist you are going to run into bans.
      - nailer 2y ago
        > One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. No. Someone that targets civilians to create political change is a terrorist.
- BoredPositron 2y ago
  right click the video -> show controls -> unmute
  - nailer 2y ago
    Discussing the Reddit iOS app.
- buck746 2y ago
  essentially none of the videos have sound on the iOS client. It's rare I ever come across a video with sound. Very frustrating to use.
ryandrake 2y ago
On the other hand, I remember Fark pretty much dying after they forced an unwanted reskin on their users. The "You'll Get Over It"[1] hubris from their admin was probably the start of their downfall. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9823324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9823324
- outer_web 2y ago
  Also the Gawker sites did the same, concurrent with their other mishaps.
dlcarrier 2y ago
It doesn't matter what the content is, if it's too difficult to access I'm not going to see it.
- phailhaus 2y ago
  Is Reddit too difficult to use for you? For me it's an endless feed of almost force-fed content. I'd actually prefer pagination to keep myself from going on for too long.
  - Tryk 2y ago
    old.reddit.com still uses pagination

nailer 2y ago

Killing third party apps makes the site unusable. Some embedded videos don't have sound, you now have to click the link to the third party site to be able to hear a video. Meanwhile, moderation has gone insane - I've had an account banned for saying 'Hamas must be destroyed' and another banned for merely explaining JK Rowlings position on transgender matters - not even offering my own. Reddit is very, very far left of the mainstream whose advertisers it is seeking to woo.

eek2121 2y ago
There are still 3rd party apps. One for iOS is called Hydra, which looks and works similarly to Apollo.
whateveracct 2y ago
Reddit is perfectly usable in iOS Safari
lovich 2y ago
The moderation is hyper partisan on all sides. Not just the left. I’ve had accounts banned along the the entire ecosystem of libertarians solely for the audacity of asserting that there were people who described themselves as socialist libertarians, and not declaring that there were five lights and that the philosophy did not exist. The admins don’t care unless it hurts advertising dollars. Reddits leadership has been very consistent on this practice ever since the early days like with u/violentacrez and the jailbait subreddit
- castlecrasher2 2y ago
  >The moderation is hyper partisan on all sides. Not just the left. It is absolutely just the left. The right-leaning spaces, even /r/conservative, do not ban for "wrongthink" unless it is accompanied with obvious contempt or hostility. Conversely, you'll be banned from a number of subreddits simply for posting in /r/conservative or other labeled-right-leaning subreddits.
  - Gunax 2y ago
    Well I am banned from /r/libertarian for wrong think. I didn't know about other subreddits though.
  - cosmicgadget 2y ago
    90% of /r/conservative's posts only allow flaired users (verified conservatives). There is an ongoing foodfight about verified users expressing neocon ideas like supporting Ukraine. I don't have any recent information on pre-emptive bans, but years ago /r/conservative had a particular mod (I won't name) who did just that.
  - DrillShopper 2y ago
    Go on to Truth Social and post "f*ck Trump" and see how long until you're banned. Do the same on Twitter (or call someone cisgender) and see how long until you're banned. (Spoiler alert - I have done both and have been banned as a result)
    - nailer 2y ago
      I think the point is we don’t want Reddit to become hyper-partisan like truth or bluesky.
      - lovich 2y ago
        Nah, I think the point is someone wants to make a obviously false statement out loud to push the Overton window. If you(the general you, not you in particular /nailer)disagree with me, then please explain how any casual observation of the subreddit r/conservative lets someone state that the subreddit does not engage in censorship or banning for wrong think, and with the critical caveat that I will not accept the moderators of r/conservatives statement’s that they don’t engage in censorship as proof on its own
phailhaus 2y ago
Reddit doesn't control subreddit mods, and some videos not having sound does not make the site "unusable". That's why it's still so successful.
- nailer 2y ago
  Yes, that is the problem. The mods they have are far outside the political norm, which does not match their attempts to seek mainstream advertisers, which limits the success of the site and provides an entry point for a decent competitor. Reddit has a large amount of video based subreddits. Videos, if you haven’t seen them before, are a mix of moving pictures and audio. When the audio doesn’t work, it does in fact make many videos unusable.
- immibis 2y ago
  The ties between Reddit itself and the mods of any notable subreddit are stronger than you think.
AngryData 2y ago
Reddit isn't suppressing you or your side specifically, they are assholes to everybody because it is moderated by tons of random people. You never got banned for posting leftist things because you don't post leftist enough things for anyone to be offended by it. Tons of people got banned for speaking a bit too frankly about their support for Luigi, which isn't a left/right issue at all, it is pure class divide.
- nailer 2y ago
  There’s a significant difference between advocating for murder and commenting that a terrorist group must be destroyed.
  - AngryData 2y ago
    I fail to see a significant difference. Both positions are advocating for the death/destruction of individuals and groups of select people. One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. And you didn't have to straight up advocate killing or death to get banned for supporting Luigi, just saying you understand his position and motives and that extremely wealthy CEOs aren't special and shouldn't be treated as such caught swaths of people in bans. You can also talk all day about how you want Russian or Chinese oligarchs to die, but an American oligarch is somehow a step too far? Reddit as a whole has been bought and paid for, and the majority of subs have also individually been bought and paid for. And if you don't stick to the moderate positions or a major media supported political zeitgeist you are going to run into bans.
    - nailer 2y ago
      > One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. No. Someone that targets civilians to create political change is a terrorist.
BoredPositron 2y ago
right click the video -> show controls -> unmute
- nailer 2y ago
  Discussing the Reddit iOS app.
buck746 2y ago
essentially none of the videos have sound on the iOS client. It's rare I ever come across a video with sound. Very frustrating to use.

ryandrake 2y ago

On the other hand, I remember Fark pretty much dying after they forced an unwanted reskin on their users. The "You'll Get Over It"[1] hubris from their admin was probably the start of their downfall. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9823324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9823324

outer_web 2y ago
Also the Gawker sites did the same, concurrent with their other mishaps.

dlcarrier 2y ago

It doesn't matter what the content is, if it's too difficult to access I'm not going to see it.

phailhaus 2y ago
Is Reddit too difficult to use for you? For me it's an endless feed of almost force-fed content. I'd actually prefer pagination to keep myself from going on for too long.
- Tryk 2y ago
  old.reddit.com still uses pagination