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> This hardware is really being held back by the operating system at this point. Apple could either create a 2U rack hardware and support Linux (and I mean App
by kokada 2y ago
> This hardware is really being held back by the operating system at this point.
Apple could either create a 2U rack hardware and support Linux (and I mean Apple supporting it, not hobbysts), or have a build of Darwin headless that could run on that hardware. But in the later case, we probably wouldn't have much software available (though I am sure people would eventually starting porting software to it, there is already MacPorts and Homebrew and I am sure they could be adapted to eventually run in that platform).
But Apple is also not interested in that market, so this will probably never happen.
- naikrovek 2y ago> But Apple is also not interested in that market, so this will probably never happen. they're just a tiny company with shareholders who are really tired of never earning back their investments. give 'em a break. I mean they're still so small that they must protect themselves by requiring that macs be used for publishing iPhone and iPad applications.
- hnaccount_rng 2y agoNot to get in the way of good snark or anything. But.. Apple isn't _requiring_ that everyone uses MacOS on their systems. But you have to bring your own engineering effort to actually make another OS run. And so far Asahi is the only effort that I'm aware of (there were alternatives in the very beginning, but they didn't even get to M2 right?)
- thesuitonym 2y ago> But you have to bring your own engineering effort to actually make another OS run. I mean, that's usually how it works though. When IBM launched the PS/2, they didn't support anything other than PC-DOS and OS/2, Microsoft had to make MS-DOS work for it (I mean... they did get support from IBM, but not really), the 386BSD and Linux communities brought the engineering effort without IBM's involvement. When Apple was making Motorola Macs, they may have given Be a little help, but didn't support any other OSes that appeared. Same with PowerPC. All of the support for alternative OSes has always come from the community, whether that's volunteers or a commercial interest with cash to burn. Why should that change for Apple silicon?
- orangecat 2y agoWhen Apple was making Motorola Macs, they may have given Be a little help, but didn't support any other OSes that appeared. Same with PowerPC. Apple briefly supported a Linux distribution on PowerPC Macs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux.
- pjmlp 2y agoHowever to be more accurate that is from a time and age, where how management was going, maybe there wouldn't be an Apple today.
- jorams 2y agoNote that they said (emphasis mine): > they're still so small that they must protect themselves by requiring that macs be used for publishing iPhone and iPad applications. They're not talking about Apple's silicon as a target, but as a development platform.
- ewzimm 2y agoThere has to be someone at Apple with a contact at IBM that could make Fedora Apple Remix happen. It may not be on-brand, but this is a prime opportunity to make the competition look worse. File it under Community projects at https://opensource.apple.com/projects https://opensource.apple.com/projects
- asadm 2y agohttps://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jobs-flips-off-ibm.jpg https://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/200...
- alwillis 2y agoI wouldn't be so sure about that. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43271486 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43271486
- pjmlp 2y agoApple was once in the server market, they decided a few times actually, that isn't where they want to be.