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You're comparing desktop prices to laptop prices. Yes they're ridiculous but you're not the target market.

kllrnohj 2y ago
Lenovo charges $70 to go from 16gb to 32gb LPDDR5x and $45 to go from 512gb to 1tb nvme.
mcgrath_sh 2y ago
Fair. A better comparison would be System 76. Comparing the 15" to System 76, I get a bigger screen (16"), TWO 2TB M.2 drives, and 64 GB RAM for $150 cheaper than a 15" with one 1TB drive and 32GB RAM. And the System 76 comes with a bunch of ports, too. For the same specs, it is $550 cheaper.
- knowaveragejoe 2y ago
  I've yet to find a non-apple laptop that's as ergonomically comfortable _as a laptop_ as the recent Airs. That's a premium unto itself, I don't know if it's $500 worth, but that's a less tangible part of the equation over raw horsepower.
  - mcgrath_sh 2y ago
    I don't even necessarily object to paying a premium. If it was $200 to go to 1TB or 32GB RAM I'd probably be annoyed but still pay it. There is a difference between paying a premium and wholly unjustifiable prices.
- gefriertrockner 2y ago
  What comparison are you trying to make? You are not painting a full picture, leaving the weight, CPU and battery life out of the equation. If you personally care about neither, yes the Air will not be the machine for you.
lastgeniusua 2y ago
most non-Mac laptops have a spare slot for an SSD (and the original one is likely replaceable), with RAM being replaceable too. Why wouldn't the desktop prices apply here too?
p_ing 2y ago
No, they're not. SODIMM prices aren't radically different from DIMM prices and laptops (usually) use the same M.2280 NVMe drives desktops do.
- LuciOfStars 2y ago
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  - p_ing 2y ago
    Personal attacks are not OK. I opened my MSI GS66 to install a second M.2280 NVMe and upgrade both DIMMs from 32GB to 64GB RAM. It was easy... I think about six screws or so. (Typed on my M2 Air)
    - LuciOfStars 2y ago
      Yeah, sorry about that. Having a nasty day and haven't had my meds thanks to the scam that is insurance. Gotta watch myself. Have a nice timezone.

Lenovo charges $70 to go from 16gb to 32gb LPDDR5x and $45 to go from 512gb to 1tb nvme.

Fair. A better comparison would be System 76. Comparing the 15" to System 76, I get a bigger screen (16"), TWO 2TB M.2 drives, and 64 GB RAM for $150 cheaper than a 15" with one 1TB drive and 32GB RAM. And the System 76 comes with a bunch of ports, too. For the same specs, it is $550 cheaper.

knowaveragejoe 2y ago
I've yet to find a non-apple laptop that's as ergonomically comfortable _as a laptop_ as the recent Airs. That's a premium unto itself, I don't know if it's $500 worth, but that's a less tangible part of the equation over raw horsepower.
- mcgrath_sh 2y ago
  I don't even necessarily object to paying a premium. If it was $200 to go to 1TB or 32GB RAM I'd probably be annoyed but still pay it. There is a difference between paying a premium and wholly unjustifiable prices.
gefriertrockner 2y ago
What comparison are you trying to make? You are not painting a full picture, leaving the weight, CPU and battery life out of the equation. If you personally care about neither, yes the Air will not be the machine for you.

lastgeniusua 2y ago

most non-Mac laptops have a spare slot for an SSD (and the original one is likely replaceable), with RAM being replaceable too. Why wouldn't the desktop prices apply here too?

p_ing 2y ago

No, they're not. SODIMM prices aren't radically different from DIMM prices and laptops (usually) use the same M.2280 NVMe drives desktops do.

LuciOfStars 2y ago
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- p_ing 2y ago
  Personal attacks are not OK. I opened my MSI GS66 to install a second M.2280 NVMe and upgrade both DIMMs from 32GB to 64GB RAM. It was easy... I think about six screws or so. (Typed on my M2 Air)
  - LuciOfStars 2y ago
    Yeah, sorry about that. Having a nasty day and haven't had my meds thanks to the scam that is insurance. Gotta watch myself. Have a nice timezone.