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CIA Director Says U.S. Has Paused Intelligence Sharing with Ukraine

25 points by doener 2y ago

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NicoJuicy 2y ago
Another one on the long list of the Trump admins bullying their allies. Note: Ukraine has joined every NATO mission since 1994 under 'NATO's Partnership for Peace' ( including when the US invoked article 5 on 9/11) Note 2: Let's just hope this is just disinformation to sow further distrust. We'll hear the truth from Ukraine how it is, can't trust anyone of the US government under Trump atm.
duxup 2y ago
Abandoning a democracy fighting against an aggressor despot is shameful and short sighted. Freedom isn’t free and we should support other free nations not just because it is right, but also so we don’t have to do the fighting directly. The role of “leader of the free world” is open, I hope someone capable can take it. Meanwhile the current US administration seems determined to weaken the US globally more every day.
- overu589 2y ago
  Talk talk talk. Invest ten years of your life in cultivating power like everyone else who wants to hold sway over humanity and stop sounding like world care hobbyists. The war has only begun and it isn’t Russia against Ukraine. Trump isn’t the enemy either. Thought controlled America will be the toughest challenge to come. > The role of “leader of the free world” is open, I hope someone capable can take it. I would not wish notoriety or power upon any I cared for. The fickle apatites of the lascivious mob are as great a danger as the lush intoxication of do or be damned power. Americans have lost their way (continuity) and the consumertopia lie of self worth is only the start of deception. Integrity cannot be found among America’s self lies. Bullshitting the way through it can hardly be called foul game. You and yours don’t seem to have the push around for freedom in this game. You seem to have been told you “deserve” it and it’s your “right.” It must be made and maintained and rebuilt every generation, this tenacity of will which makes one’s “free.”
  - duxup 2y ago
    I honestly don’t see how that’s a response to what I wrote.
    - overu589 2y ago
      You are a candle in a dark windy gale. Power is not a job it is made of people. The modern way of life has eroded our foundations for self rule and we awaken to delegated power not working how we had hoped. It’s a long hard road with a lot of work within, which never begins until you let go of the comfortable lie of modernity. Those you think are your enemies are full pro on this power thing. The damn shame is, the greater enemy are those who will play your “sides” against one and other, though we all have our issues. I hope this war ends soon favorably for the Ukrainians. Trump is tacking this down as a tough business deal. Different kind of war than Zelensky’s experience. They could get fleeced. In your mind you were just comfy and now you notice virtue is collapsing somewhere in the world. The war isn’t where the bombs drop, it is everywhere this damn mechanation of power presses upon us. Which for modernity is by umbilical. If you cannot see what I mean for yourself, just do extra sit-ups and pushups and don’t be the slob when the yolk of civilization falls upon you and yours.
      - duxup 2y ago
        Honestly, your posts read like some obfuscated mish-mash of incomplete concepts. I can't make heads or tails of it.
        overu589 2y ago
        Not as easy a narration as the global stage, eh? This deserved a more dignified answer, I’m not trying to troll. It is like watching a car crash in slow motion, wondering why everyone doesn’t take sensible road safety into consideration, and for the other guy (usually) shit is just happening. I guess the world comes down to those who see we are intrinsically beset by our own worst enemy, ourselves; and those who look (rightly in some situations) to the blameful others. And that’s a sad shit storm founded upon a recipe of mass delusion in the populous mind. You may be looking for too clear an explanation. Lack of generational seriousness about power in this world is one complaint with your tone. You’re the armchair critic of good faith gone wrong. (Slight trolling there). I know you certainly aren’t “the problem”, you’re a noble heart, I feel you. You aren’t the solution either. You don’t have the mettle in you to even understand the problem, let alone the solution.
- butterlettuce 2y ago
  > we should support other free nations not just because it is right, but also so we don’t have to do the fighting directly. There are young Ukrainian men who avoid conscription to fight their aggressors. They flee and become refugees. It’s a total slap in the face to the American taxpayer.
  - duxup 2y ago
    And others fight and we should support them.
    - butterlettuce 2y ago
      > and we should support them I’m struggling to afford eggs dude
      - duxup 2y ago
        Don't buy eggs? The whole eggs panic is weird ... there are other foods, and how it has anything to do with Ukraine is beyond me.
        butterlettuce 2y ago
        What next? Don’t rent a house, just live in your car?
  - tmpz22 2y ago
    The revolutionary war was considered to be an unwinnable war - France bankrupted itself to provide support and didn't demand $500b in minerals in return. Absolutely shameful behavior to forget our own history.
    - butterlettuce 2y ago
      Non-sequitur. Anyway, the US didn’t have conscription issues though. The shameful behavior is on young Ukrainians abandoning their country in distress. Seriously, read up on it. It’s on traditional news outlet, not some weirdo podcaster.

25 points by doener 2y ago

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Another one on the long list of the Trump admins bullying their allies. Note: Ukraine has joined every NATO mission since 1994 under 'NATO's Partnership for Peace' ( including when the US invoked article 5 on 9/11) Note 2: Let's just hope this is just disinformation to sow further distrust. We'll hear the truth from Ukraine how it is, can't trust anyone of the US government under Trump atm.

duxup 2y ago

Abandoning a democracy fighting against an aggressor despot is shameful and short sighted. Freedom isn’t free and we should support other free nations not just because it is right, but also so we don’t have to do the fighting directly. The role of “leader of the free world” is open, I hope someone capable can take it. Meanwhile the current US administration seems determined to weaken the US globally more every day.

overu589 2y ago
Talk talk talk. Invest ten years of your life in cultivating power like everyone else who wants to hold sway over humanity and stop sounding like world care hobbyists. The war has only begun and it isn’t Russia against Ukraine. Trump isn’t the enemy either. Thought controlled America will be the toughest challenge to come. > The role of “leader of the free world” is open, I hope someone capable can take it. I would not wish notoriety or power upon any I cared for. The fickle apatites of the lascivious mob are as great a danger as the lush intoxication of do or be damned power. Americans have lost their way (continuity) and the consumertopia lie of self worth is only the start of deception. Integrity cannot be found among America’s self lies. Bullshitting the way through it can hardly be called foul game. You and yours don’t seem to have the push around for freedom in this game. You seem to have been told you “deserve” it and it’s your “right.” It must be made and maintained and rebuilt every generation, this tenacity of will which makes one’s “free.”
- duxup 2y ago
  I honestly don’t see how that’s a response to what I wrote.
  - overu589 2y ago
    You are a candle in a dark windy gale. Power is not a job it is made of people. The modern way of life has eroded our foundations for self rule and we awaken to delegated power not working how we had hoped. It’s a long hard road with a lot of work within, which never begins until you let go of the comfortable lie of modernity. Those you think are your enemies are full pro on this power thing. The damn shame is, the greater enemy are those who will play your “sides” against one and other, though we all have our issues. I hope this war ends soon favorably for the Ukrainians. Trump is tacking this down as a tough business deal. Different kind of war than Zelensky’s experience. They could get fleeced. In your mind you were just comfy and now you notice virtue is collapsing somewhere in the world. The war isn’t where the bombs drop, it is everywhere this damn mechanation of power presses upon us. Which for modernity is by umbilical. If you cannot see what I mean for yourself, just do extra sit-ups and pushups and don’t be the slob when the yolk of civilization falls upon you and yours.
    - duxup 2y ago
      Honestly, your posts read like some obfuscated mish-mash of incomplete concepts. I can't make heads or tails of it.
      - overu589 2y ago
        Not as easy a narration as the global stage, eh? This deserved a more dignified answer, I’m not trying to troll. It is like watching a car crash in slow motion, wondering why everyone doesn’t take sensible road safety into consideration, and for the other guy (usually) shit is just happening. I guess the world comes down to those who see we are intrinsically beset by our own worst enemy, ourselves; and those who look (rightly in some situations) to the blameful others. And that’s a sad shit storm founded upon a recipe of mass delusion in the populous mind. You may be looking for too clear an explanation. Lack of generational seriousness about power in this world is one complaint with your tone. You’re the armchair critic of good faith gone wrong. (Slight trolling there). I know you certainly aren’t “the problem”, you’re a noble heart, I feel you. You aren’t the solution either. You don’t have the mettle in you to even understand the problem, let alone the solution.
butterlettuce 2y ago
> we should support other free nations not just because it is right, but also so we don’t have to do the fighting directly. There are young Ukrainian men who avoid conscription to fight their aggressors. They flee and become refugees. It’s a total slap in the face to the American taxpayer.
- duxup 2y ago
  And others fight and we should support them.
  - butterlettuce 2y ago
    > and we should support them I’m struggling to afford eggs dude
    - duxup 2y ago
      Don't buy eggs? The whole eggs panic is weird ... there are other foods, and how it has anything to do with Ukraine is beyond me.
      - butterlettuce 2y ago
        What next? Don’t rent a house, just live in your car?
- tmpz22 2y ago
  The revolutionary war was considered to be an unwinnable war - France bankrupted itself to provide support and didn't demand $500b in minerals in return. Absolutely shameful behavior to forget our own history.
  - butterlettuce 2y ago
    Non-sequitur. Anyway, the US didn’t have conscription issues though. The shameful behavior is on young Ukrainians abandoning their country in distress. Seriously, read up on it. It’s on traditional news outlet, not some weirdo podcaster.