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Caffeine?! I bet people are more worried about cocaine, amphetamine, methamphetamine, ecstasy, ketamine, and THC, which are all found in sewage. To not include

by tokai 2y ago

Caffeine?! I bet people are more worried about cocaine, amphetamine, methamphetamine, ecstasy, ketamine, and THC, which are all found in sewage. To not include SSRIs et. al. and anti psychotics. This is study is European, but still shows the issue: https://www.euda.europa.eu/news/2024/4/latest-wastewater-data-88-european-cities-reveal-cocaine-detections-rise_en https://www.euda.europa.eu/news/2024/4/latest-wastewater-dat...

NotGMan 2y ago
Another huge issue is estrogen from women using birth control pills.
- appointment 2y ago
  Why is that an issue? I don't think anyone is given mandatory tests for estrogen.
- gruez 2y ago
  Apparently it's a non issue, see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43268848 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43268848
0_____0 2y ago
Tbh I'm not at all worried about any of the party drugs you mentioned. If you took 1mg of each of those, at the same time you would feel about the same as you do after a cup of coffee (the amphetamines are relevant at that dose, MDMA/THC/ketamine would be deeply sub-threshold). At the nanogram level? Forget it. There's all kinds of crap in everything we eat, drink, and breathe. Dose makes the poison - there's a big difference between a detectable level of something and a clinically significant amount. You'd be better off improving the ventilation in your house than worrying about whether your lettuce has 1PPT of cocaine metabolite in it. Note that all of the above is about the party drugs. I have no idea about what the deal is with the psychiatric meds and hormones. If anyone has knowledge of whether chronic exposure to extremely small quantities of them and their métabolites has clinical significance I'd be interested to know more. I sort of doubt it, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong
Steven420 2y ago
That's why it's best to grow your own food and compost with your own pee
- reverendsteveii 2y ago
  that way you get your meth back for free
  - throwaway173738 2y ago
    Scientists call it “the meth cycle.”

by tokai 2y ago

NotGMan 2y ago

Another huge issue is estrogen from women using birth control pills.

appointment 2y ago
Why is that an issue? I don't think anyone is given mandatory tests for estrogen.
gruez 2y ago
Apparently it's a non issue, see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43268848 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43268848

0_____0 2y ago

Tbh I'm not at all worried about any of the party drugs you mentioned. If you took 1mg of each of those, at the same time you would feel about the same as you do after a cup of coffee (the amphetamines are relevant at that dose, MDMA/THC/ketamine would be deeply sub-threshold). At the nanogram level? Forget it. There's all kinds of crap in everything we eat, drink, and breathe. Dose makes the poison - there's a big difference between a detectable level of something and a clinically significant amount. You'd be better off improving the ventilation in your house than worrying about whether your lettuce has 1PPT of cocaine metabolite in it. Note that all of the above is about the party drugs. I have no idea about what the deal is with the psychiatric meds and hormones. If anyone has knowledge of whether chronic exposure to extremely small quantities of them and their métabolites has clinical significance I'd be interested to know more. I sort of doubt it, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong

Steven420 2y ago

That's why it's best to grow your own food and compost with your own pee

reverendsteveii 2y ago
that way you get your meth back for free
- throwaway173738 2y ago
  Scientists call it “the meth cycle.”