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> too many things would have to fit perfectly for it to make sense things like immediately reversing course on military support for the only country at war wit

> too many things would have to fit perfectly for it to make sense things like immediately reversing course on military support for the only country at war with Russia? things like torching relationships with our closest allies we've spent decades, if not centuries building? things like repeatedly and publicly praising Putin? things like both ex-KGB officers and current UK legislators publicly stating the possibility? things like everything in this article? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates... I don't know why you think it's quite so far fetched. it's not a certainty but at this point I would say the preponderance of evidence calls it "likely"

rayiner 2y ago
> things like immediately reversing course on military support for the only country at war with Russia America has a tremendous interest in not being at war with the world’s second largest nuclear power. We also have no interest in sacrificing good relations with Russia for the sake of Ukraine.
- fedsocpuppet 2y ago
  We should definitely go back to the good relations we used to have. Maybe if we're nice to them again they won't be running around with polonium, forcing migrants through Belarus, sending in little green men to their neighbors, and generally trying to destabilize the entire West. They're just misunderstood - it's not a country of thugs, they just want to live in peace and pump oil. Hey maybe if we have good relations we'll even be able to benefit from their recent invaluable contributions to science and technology.
  - rayiner 2y ago
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    - fedsocpuppet 2y ago
      That was bad, and this is bad. Iraq was bad, and this is bad. Brilliant. We should care because it's an easy way to make friends and remain the most powerful country in the world. Well, was easy, when you could trust the US to not change their tariffs on you every three days. Art of the deal!
      - rayiner 2y ago
        What is the relevance of “bad” versus “good?” Would the U.S. do anything differently today if Mexico was taken over by hardline communists? Why should we build a foreign policy around expecting other countries to behave differently than we do?
        fedsocpuppet 2y ago
        Considering we currently have a foreign policy solely based around giving 48 hour dopamine hits to the most newsmax-brain addled 25% of the population, that would be a significant step up. Democrats would not want to invade Mexico or plot a coup, because we're not morons. Trump doesn't have a consistent policy about getting involved or not in foreign countries no matter how much you want to convince yourself that he's the second coming of George Washington.
- LunaSea 2y ago
  Is that the reason for threatening the territorial integrity of Canada, Greenland and Panama?
- lm28469 2y ago
  > We also have no interest in sacrificing good relations with Russia for the sake of Ukraine. No problem sacrificing good relations with Canada, Europe, China, the entire Arab world, though... The mental gymnastic people go through lol
lm28469 2y ago
He's a mentally challenged 80 years old failed businessman who loves people he perceive as strong, that would explain all of that. Lot's of americans and europeans are fan of Putin, because "he tells it how it is", he doesn't like gays, &c. Trump is a simple mind so it's not really surprising. He also sucks Saudi's and Israeli's balls all day long for the same reasons

rayiner 2y ago

> things like immediately reversing course on military support for the only country at war with Russia America has a tremendous interest in not being at war with the world’s second largest nuclear power. We also have no interest in sacrificing good relations with Russia for the sake of Ukraine.

fedsocpuppet 2y ago
We should definitely go back to the good relations we used to have. Maybe if we're nice to them again they won't be running around with polonium, forcing migrants through Belarus, sending in little green men to their neighbors, and generally trying to destabilize the entire West. They're just misunderstood - it's not a country of thugs, they just want to live in peace and pump oil. Hey maybe if we have good relations we'll even be able to benefit from their recent invaluable contributions to science and technology.
- rayiner 2y ago
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  - fedsocpuppet 2y ago
    That was bad, and this is bad. Iraq was bad, and this is bad. Brilliant. We should care because it's an easy way to make friends and remain the most powerful country in the world. Well, was easy, when you could trust the US to not change their tariffs on you every three days. Art of the deal!
    - rayiner 2y ago
      What is the relevance of “bad” versus “good?” Would the U.S. do anything differently today if Mexico was taken over by hardline communists? Why should we build a foreign policy around expecting other countries to behave differently than we do?
      - fedsocpuppet 2y ago
        Considering we currently have a foreign policy solely based around giving 48 hour dopamine hits to the most newsmax-brain addled 25% of the population, that would be a significant step up. Democrats would not want to invade Mexico or plot a coup, because we're not morons. Trump doesn't have a consistent policy about getting involved or not in foreign countries no matter how much you want to convince yourself that he's the second coming of George Washington.
LunaSea 2y ago
Is that the reason for threatening the territorial integrity of Canada, Greenland and Panama?
lm28469 2y ago
> We also have no interest in sacrificing good relations with Russia for the sake of Ukraine. No problem sacrificing good relations with Canada, Europe, China, the entire Arab world, though... The mental gymnastic people go through lol

lm28469 2y ago

He's a mentally challenged 80 years old failed businessman who loves people he perceive as strong, that would explain all of that. Lot's of americans and europeans are fan of Putin, because "he tells it how it is", he doesn't like gays, &c. Trump is a simple mind so it's not really surprising. He also sucks Saudi's and Israeli's balls all day long for the same reasons