> They are for freedom and liberty only in the sense that they just want the U.S. government and its regulations and laws to get out of the way so that they can

> They are for freedom and liberty only in the sense that they just want the U.S. government and its regulations and laws to get out of the way so that they can do their bidding. Pretty sure that is where Libertarianism always ends up. I think you want Utopianism.