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Maybe it's time for Framework to start doing printers too.
by ivanmontillam 2y ago
Maybe it's time for Framework to start doing printers too.
- Brian_K_White 2y agoFirmware is the thing that Framework has failed the most at from day one to today. It's every bit as locked down as everyone else's only without the big guys quality control and updates so you get to live with bugs for the entire life of the hardware. Their firmware updates are complete clown car. When they actually do one, the update process itself is just stupid fragile. Cross your fingers and clear your schedule for the next day in case you aren't lucky. You have a 10% chance of being left with a machine that probably still runs but works worse than before, and no ability to roll back. I have a 11th gen intel board that is completely unusable after an update, but might possibly still be recoverable if I reinstall it into the laptop so it can use the laptop display instead of displayport. But I'd have to take my current 12th gen board out and then put it all back again after. A Framework printer, if it matched a Framework laptop, would still have shit firmware, probably licensed from one of the majors, with all the same bad behavior, except with more bugs.
- grayhatter 2y agoagreed their firmware is their biggest flaw disagree it's all their fault, I've had 0 problems with my amd board on linux, and anecdotally that appears to be common on the forums, where intel is more painful. That's one of the reasons I refused to invest prior to their amd board. I can't trust intel not to be toxic. I'd still take a broken crappy printer from framework (assuming it's hackable, and not doom and gloom like you predict) over the status quo. I mean, I mainline linux because software being non-toxic is more important than polish will ever be to me.