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Wether the US is a beacon of freedom is too much of a landmine, I'll just point out that there's about a few dozen countrjes around the world where you'll enjoy

Wether the US is a beacon of freedom is too much of a landmine, I'll just point out that there's about a few dozen countrjes around the world where you'll enjoy enough personal freedom. > Culture is something that's very hard to replicate. You are highlighting the global influence of the US. By definition, you'll get access to that global shine almost wherever you live. Nobody will immigrate to the US to watch Disney movies or eat McDonalds. On the other hand, you might need to be in Korea to get most of the Korean culture. You'd need to assert that the US local and exclusive culture is more attractive than other countries own culture, and that sounds like a hard debate. To your point, it's easier to move to the US if you already know the culture a bit, but that still presumes wanting to move there.

flyinglizard 2y ago
It's called the American Dream rather than American Reality for a reason. People follow this dream into the country. If China had enough of a hold on Western culture, it could too manufacture this perception which would draw immigrants in.
- yencabulator 2y ago
  Foreign opinions on the desirability of The American Dream have plummeted quite hard.
- makeitdouble 2y ago
  > People follow this dream into the country Or not. Unsurprisingly US immigration dropped a lot during the first Trump presidency, which coincided with COVID making things worse. In numbers Germany was also getting more influx than the US, but they sure weren't happy with it either. https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/international-migration-outlook-2023_b0f40584-en/full-report/component-52.html#annex-d1e49954-d0802b1e71 https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/international-migration... > China [...] would draw immigrants in. Assuming that China wishes for more population to come in sounds pretty weird to me. They fought an incredibly unpopular fight on their own citizens for decades to reduce population growth, a foreign influx of people is probably the last thing they want IMHO.

flyinglizard 2y ago

It's called the American Dream rather than American Reality for a reason. People follow this dream into the country. If China had enough of a hold on Western culture, it could too manufacture this perception which would draw immigrants in.

yencabulator 2y ago
Foreign opinions on the desirability of The American Dream have plummeted quite hard.
makeitdouble 2y ago
> People follow this dream into the country Or not. Unsurprisingly US immigration dropped a lot during the first Trump presidency, which coincided with COVID making things worse. In numbers Germany was also getting more influx than the US, but they sure weren't happy with it either. https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/international-migration-outlook-2023_b0f40584-en/full-report/component-52.html#annex-d1e49954-d0802b1e71 https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/international-migration... > China [...] would draw immigrants in. Assuming that China wishes for more population to come in sounds pretty weird to me. They fought an incredibly unpopular fight on their own citizens for decades to reduce population growth, a foreign influx of people is probably the last thing they want IMHO.