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Mox's FAQ addresses this question: https://www.xmox.nl/faq/#hdr-won-t-the-big-email-providers-block-my-email https://www.xmox.nl/faq/#hdr-won-t-the-big-email-p
by mmooss 2y ago
Mox's FAQ addresses this question:
https://www.xmox.nl/faq/#hdr-won-t-the-big-email-providers-block-my-email https://www.xmox.nl/faq/#hdr-won-t-the-big-email-providers-b...
Won't the big email providers block my email?
It is a common misconception that it is impossible to run your own email server nowadays. The claim is that the handful big email providers will simply block your email. However, you can run your own email server just fine, and your email will be accepted, provided you are doing it right.
If your email is rejected, it is often because your IP address has a bad email sending reputation. Email servers often use IP blocklists to reject email networks with a bad email sending reputation. These blocklists often work at the level of whole network ranges. So if you try to run an email server from a hosting provider with a bad reputation (which happens if they don't monitor their network or don't act on abuse/spam reports), your IP too will have a bad reputation and other mail servers (both large and small) may reject messages coming from you. During the quickstart, mox checks if your IPs are on a few often-used blocklists. It's typically not a good idea to host an email server on the cheapest or largest cloud providers: They often don't spend the resources necessary for a good reputation, or they simply block all outgoing SMTP traffic. It's better to look for a technically-focused local provider. They too may initially block outgoing SMTP connections on new machines to prevent spam from their networks. But they will either automatically open up outgoing SMTP traffic after a cool down period (e.g. 24 hours), or after you've contacted their support.
After you get past the IP blocklist checks, email servers use many more signals to determine if your email message could be spam and should be rejected. Mox helps you set up a system that doesn't trigger most of the technical signals (e.g. with SPF/DKIM/DMARC). But there are more signals, for example: Sending to a mail server or address for the first time. Sending from a newly registered domain (especially if you're sending automated messages, and if you send more messages after previous messages were rejected), domains that existed for a few weeks to a month are treated more friendly. Sending messages with content that resembles known spam messages.
Should your email be rejected, you will typically get an error message during the SMTP transaction that explains why. In the case of big email providers the error message often has instructions on how to prove to them you are a legitimate sender.
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- kazinator 2y agoThat FAQ doesn't address anything. Suppose you're in a blacklisted block. Now what? Most residential IPs are blacklisted. When I say I'm self-hosting, I mean I have a machine under a table right here in my home: True Scotsman's cotsman's self-hosting.
- Tepix 2y agoYou can still do that by tunneling the IP address of a cheap VPS to your home network
- zakki 2y agoWhen it is blacklisted, the user/owner of the IP must go to each "anti spam" provider that blacklisted the IP. I.e. spamhaus, they have a page[1] to check if an IP is blacklisted as well as asking to remove the IP from blacklist. [1] https://check.spamhaus.org/ https://check.spamhaus.org/
- razemio 2y agoYep, this did not work. I tried for several years. The only thing that worked was manually filling out the required forms. Not sure if it changed lately. Out of the self host mail business for some years.
- kazinator 2y agoSome blacklists say "this is a residential subscriber IP". Some mail servers block based on that. An IP cannot be removed from such a database. https://www.rbl-dns.com/dul https://www.rbl-dns.com/dul I drop SMTP connections from servers that simply do not have matching forward and reverse DNS. This rule eliminates like 90% of spam. It's a good rule and I won't make any exceptions. There's no way to contact me. Your bounce message tells you what you have to do: get your DNS ducks in a row.
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