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> “We can get through more [coding] quicker and do more tests and learn quicker,” Lu said. “Like, how much time do you spend debugging because you put the brack

by r14c 2y ago

> “We can get through more [coding] quicker and do more tests and learn quicker,” Lu said. “Like, how much time do you spend debugging because you put the bracket in the wrong place? That’s the sort of time spent that’s unnecessary,” she said. Pretty much never? Do people actually struggle with that?

sidewndr46 2y ago
The quote is from Yang Lu, the CIO of Coach and Kate Spade owner Tapestry. Based on that quote I'm going to assume the person has never once written computer software or only did it once more than a decade ago. The differentiation of syntax and semantics and compiling vs. debugging is completely absent in that quote. The same individual also said “We’re training developers to think more from a prompting perspective versus the traditional programming perspective". As if we're all writing device drivers from scratch each time someone needs the styling on an HTML element updated
ralph84 2y ago
If it’s a bracket in the wrong place that is a syntax error, sure, that’s easily detected and fixed. A bracket in the wrong place could be a logic error though. If you need examples of misplaced brackets leading to logic bugs just ask ChatGPT.
perrygeo 2y ago
AI can do amazing things... and they pick syntax checking as an example? It's almost like people hyping this stuff have no idea what they're talking about.
rsynnott 2y ago
Years and years ago, some. However, editors which indicate where the matching bracket is are... how old? First one I remember using was in the late 90s, though I'm sure there was an emacs extension for it long before that. From the stuff they say, I get the impression that a lot of "AI revolutionises programming" people have never used modern development tooling, mind you. > the CIO of Coach and Kate Spade owner Tapestry about GenAI coding tools. This is... a weird role to ask about this. Cynically, I would wonder did the author work down a list of people until they found someone willing to give them the quote that they wanted.
- sidewndr46 2y ago
  If you read through the piece it is filled with unsubstantiated claims. This piece reads much more like an advertisement. Looking at recent publications from the author, most of the work looks like copy writing for business press releases and very little of it appears to be journalism.

by r14c 2y ago

sidewndr46 2y ago

The quote is from Yang Lu, the CIO of Coach and Kate Spade owner Tapestry. Based on that quote I'm going to assume the person has never once written computer software or only did it once more than a decade ago. The differentiation of syntax and semantics and compiling vs. debugging is completely absent in that quote. The same individual also said “We’re training developers to think more from a prompting perspective versus the traditional programming perspective". As if we're all writing device drivers from scratch each time someone needs the styling on an HTML element updated

ralph84 2y ago

If it’s a bracket in the wrong place that is a syntax error, sure, that’s easily detected and fixed. A bracket in the wrong place could be a logic error though. If you need examples of misplaced brackets leading to logic bugs just ask ChatGPT.

perrygeo 2y ago

AI can do amazing things... and they pick syntax checking as an example? It's almost like people hyping this stuff have no idea what they're talking about.

rsynnott 2y ago

Years and years ago, some. However, editors which indicate where the matching bracket is are... how old? First one I remember using was in the late 90s, though I'm sure there was an emacs extension for it long before that. From the stuff they say, I get the impression that a lot of "AI revolutionises programming" people have never used modern development tooling, mind you. > the CIO of Coach and Kate Spade owner Tapestry about GenAI coding tools. This is... a weird role to ask about this. Cynically, I would wonder did the author work down a list of people until they found someone willing to give them the quote that they wanted.

sidewndr46 2y ago
If you read through the piece it is filled with unsubstantiated claims. This piece reads much more like an advertisement. Looking at recent publications from the author, most of the work looks like copy writing for business press releases and very little of it appears to be journalism.