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Those axioms can still be evaluated, quantified and compared, and eventually calculated.
by kennysoona 2y ago
Those axioms can still be evaluated, quantified and compared, and eventually calculated.
- yifanl 2y agoBased on what criteria? A set of meta-axioms?
- kennysoona 2y agoNo, no meta axioms. Just by quantifying whatever we can as much as possible to be as objective as possible.
- Mr-Frog 2y agoMy gut still tells me this relies on a human-defined optimization metric.
- soulofmischief 2y ago"as possible" means an incomplete system that still relies on assumed axioms.
- kennysoona 2y agoMaybe. I don't think so though. I think everything can be quantified and qualified.
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- soulofmischief 2y agoUnless you can provide a proof, it remains conjecture.
- numpad0 2y agoI think what this branch of comments is trying to do is to reinvent `ideology` as a word.
- kennysoona 2y agoI have no interest in ideology and don't see even the concept as relevant to any point I've made.
- numpad0 2y agoI'm not trying to call anyone out, just thought that what is being discussed is concepts laid out doughnut shaped around that word.
- kennysoona 2y agoThat's fair enough, I guess you could say my position is perhaps an ideology, but I do belief it can be defended objectively as possible.
- harperlee 2y agoBased on whether they take you to places you don’t want to end at, which is an incomplete measure but quite a pragmatical one. E.g. if your set of axioms end at “erase half of the population by force”, then perhaps revisit your axioms.
- mike_hearn 2y agoThat's what soulofmischief is saying. If your reasoning ends at somewhere you don't like emotionally, then your axioms are bad i.e. your actual axioms are emotional. Which is fine!