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>That's an awfully liberal use of "bad faith". There wasn't any "negotiation" yet at all, it's just a meeting. Meetings go off-agenda all the time. >Why should
by cube13 14y ago
>That's an awfully liberal use of "bad faith". There wasn't any "negotiation" yet at all, it's just a meeting. Meetings go off-agenda all the time.
>Why should we care? I still don't see any ethics issues here at all. Hard negotiation isn't "bad faith".
You're absolutely correct that hard negotiation tactics are not bad faith. However, like you point out, there wasn't supposed to be any negotiation about an offer in the first place.
There was no negotiation. In fact, one party(Dalton) did not come to negotiate. The other party clearly did.
This was not just a meeting going off agenda. This was a calculated strategy to hire Dalton, and that's why this is a bad faith negotiation. Dalton did not walk into it prepared to negotiate employment, nor was he pitching for his product to be acquired by Facebook. But Facebook was clearly interested in it.
To be clear, the bad faith negotiation is really on Dalton's part, because he was forced into the negotiations. The fault lies with Facebook, though.
- ajross 14y agoI guess, though I still don't see the ethical takeaway: "Don't go to meetings with Facebook, you never know when they might try to hire you for cheap!" just doesn't have the dramatic impact I'd expect from the kind of argument I'm reading.
- azakai 14y ago> There was no negotiation. In fact, one party(Dalton) did not come to negotiate. The other party clearly did. Is it that clear? We weren't there. Perhaps the Facebook executives listened to a presentation about his product for an hour, and realized during that time that the presented product was basically identical to their own intended product, so the last part of the meeting ended up revolving around "hey, looks we might compete with you - or, we might hire you if that interests you". Maybe it didn't go like that. Maybe they stopped him after 1 slide and told him "your app competes with us. Let us buy you, or die." Huge range in between those two. You and I (unless you are one of the people that was in that meeting) can't know where things fell.
- petegrif 14y agoI don't think you have been reading the source material closely. It wasn't the case they suddenly realized. They knew about his product. They had encouraged him to build it.