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I am trying to temper my dislike for krebs, but it is getting difficult. Kaspersky operates an autonomous system (AS) and "Prospero" has traffic routed through

I am trying to temper my dislike for krebs, but it is getting difficult. Kaspersky operates an autonomous system (AS) and "Prospero" has traffic routed through that AS. Microsoft and Google also route all sorts of malware and spam through their ASes. >The routing through networks operated by Kaspersky doesn’t by default mean provision of the company’s services, as Kaspersky’s automatic system (AS) path might appear as a technical prefix in the network of telecom providers the company works with Censorship shouldn't happen at the AS level, anyways.

antithesis-nl 2y ago
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- ziddoap 2y ago
  >you might want to check with your God Emperor on that I'm not from the US, thanks.
  - antithesis-nl 2y ago
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    - ziddoap 2y ago
      I'm not shilling. I made no value judgement on Kaspersky or their operations. My point is that this is a bad article, and the AS is not where censorship should be implemented, if it's going to be.
      - Reubachi 2y ago
        Good on you for countering the obvious troll who breaks every rule of HN discussion which is conveniently posted on the sidebar. (YEs, I am also breaking the rule now.) Seriosuly, good luck to future generations having to trudge through discourse when literal shill accounts will call you a shill for simply stating. "I am not american. The article is misrepresenting basic, well understood tech practices. He is a COURT saying the same in previous case with same actor."
        registeredcorn 2y ago
        I might be missing something here: What sidebar are you talking about? I don't know if one of my extensions is blocking something native to HN or what. I don't see anything describing rules, aside from the guideline bit along the bottom of the main page.
        Reubachi 2y ago
        Apologies, sidebar is a reddit term. HN guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html " In Comments Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that". Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead. Throwaway accounts are ok for sensitive information, but please don't create accounts routinely. HN is a community—users should have an identity that others can relate to. Please don't use uppercase for emphasis. If you want to emphasize a word or phrase, put asterisks around it and it will get italicized. Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data. Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag, please don't also comment that you did. Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting. Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills."
flutas 2y ago
Honestly, I really have to take what he says with a shaker of salt after the Ubiquiti fiasco and his refusal to admit what happened until a year later and being forced to by a court.[0] [0]: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/08/final-thoughts-on-ubiquiti/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/08/final-thoughts-on-ubiqui... [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32663296 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32663296
- ziddoap 2y ago
  >I really have to take what he says with a shaker of salt after the Ubiquiti fiasco For me, it was when he doxxed security researchers, claiming they were criminals with no evidence.
  - knallfrosch 2y ago
    For me it was when he doxxed someone by connecting them to accounts in forums for sexuality. He revealed the identity and the sexual desires. No, it was not relevant to the story at all.
- jamespo 2y ago
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- buildbot 2y ago
  His original article caused me to stop using Ubiquiti for quite some, I am sure I am not alone. When his false claims were retracted, I was very annoyed that I was mislead and that he was only forced to admit the falsehoods; not pay for the real damage he did to their reputation, as far as I know.
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stepupmakeup 2y ago
One comment even says the AS name is an acronym for their DDoS protection service.
- KomoD 2y ago
  Yeah. KL-KDP, Kaspersky Lab Kaspersky DDOS Protection https://kdp.kaspersky.ru/ https://kdp.kaspersky.ru/
easterncalculus 2y ago
> I am trying to temper my dislike for krebs, but it is getting difficult. I'm not. The guy lies for a living.
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antithesis-nl 2y ago

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ziddoap 2y ago
>you might want to check with your God Emperor on that I'm not from the US, thanks.
- antithesis-nl 2y ago
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  - ziddoap 2y ago
    I'm not shilling. I made no value judgement on Kaspersky or their operations. My point is that this is a bad article, and the AS is not where censorship should be implemented, if it's going to be.
    - Reubachi 2y ago
      Good on you for countering the obvious troll who breaks every rule of HN discussion which is conveniently posted on the sidebar. (YEs, I am also breaking the rule now.) Seriosuly, good luck to future generations having to trudge through discourse when literal shill accounts will call you a shill for simply stating. "I am not american. The article is misrepresenting basic, well understood tech practices. He is a COURT saying the same in previous case with same actor."
      - registeredcorn 2y ago
        I might be missing something here: What sidebar are you talking about? I don't know if one of my extensions is blocking something native to HN or what. I don't see anything describing rules, aside from the guideline bit along the bottom of the main page.
        Reubachi 2y ago
        Apologies, sidebar is a reddit term. HN guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html " In Comments Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that". Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead. Throwaway accounts are ok for sensitive information, but please don't create accounts routinely. HN is a community—users should have an identity that others can relate to. Please don't use uppercase for emphasis. If you want to emphasize a word or phrase, put asterisks around it and it will get italicized. Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data. Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag, please don't also comment that you did. Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting. Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills."

flutas 2y ago

Honestly, I really have to take what he says with a shaker of salt after the Ubiquiti fiasco and his refusal to admit what happened until a year later and being forced to by a court.[0] [0]: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/08/final-thoughts-on-ubiquiti/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/08/final-thoughts-on-ubiqui... [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32663296 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32663296

ziddoap 2y ago
>I really have to take what he says with a shaker of salt after the Ubiquiti fiasco For me, it was when he doxxed security researchers, claiming they were criminals with no evidence.
- knallfrosch 2y ago
  For me it was when he doxxed someone by connecting them to accounts in forums for sexuality. He revealed the identity and the sexual desires. No, it was not relevant to the story at all.
jamespo 2y ago
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buildbot 2y ago
His original article caused me to stop using Ubiquiti for quite some, I am sure I am not alone. When his false claims were retracted, I was very annoyed that I was mislead and that he was only forced to admit the falsehoods; not pay for the real damage he did to their reputation, as far as I know.

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stepupmakeup 2y ago

One comment even says the AS name is an acronym for their DDoS protection service.

KomoD 2y ago
Yeah. KL-KDP, Kaspersky Lab Kaspersky DDOS Protection https://kdp.kaspersky.ru/ https://kdp.kaspersky.ru/

easterncalculus 2y ago

> I am trying to temper my dislike for krebs, but it is getting difficult. I'm not. The guy lies for a living.

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