> "Batteries aren't produced at remotely enough scale to be viable for grid storage." The idea that if we can't have a renewable grid identical to the fossil f

> "Batteries aren't produced at remotely enough scale to be viable for grid storage." The idea that if we can't have a renewable grid identical to the fossil fuel grid, then we may as well stick with the fossil fuel grid even if it means the end of the world is a bit weird. The UK's biggest energy need is heating, but the housing stock in the UK is famously shitty, 38% of homes were built before 1946 and it's the worst value for money of any developed country[1]. It isn't well insulated, triple-glazed, heat-pump fitted, using local industrial waste heat for home heating. Heat is harder to move than electricity, but easy and cheap to store - this 2019 pilot project can store 130MWh of heat for up to a week[2], something we couldn't reasonably or cheaply do with 130MWh of electricity. It's possible that energy and electricity requirements could be reduced meaningfully without dropping quality of life, and that meaningful amounts of energy could be stored in heat and synthetic gas[3] rather than in more expensive electric charge storage. [Is this used Nissan Leaf at 30kWh for £2,000 the cheapest battery storage I could buy in the UK right now?[4]] [1] top few results from https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=uk+housing+stock+low+quality&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=uk+housing+stock+low+qualit... [2] https://www.siemensgamesa.com/global/en/home/press-releases/190612-siemens-gamesa-inauguration-energy-system-thermal.html https://www.siemensgamesa.com/global/en/home/press-releases/... [3] https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2022/07/22/were-going-to-need-a-lot-of-solar-panels/ https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2022/07/22/were-going-to-... [4] https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202502289581699 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202502289581699