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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attempt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attempt quotes the figure that only one out of a dozen suicide attempts succ

by btilly 2y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attempt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_attempt quotes the figure that only one out of a dozen suicide attempts succeeds. The most common method is pills. The most common outcome is complete physical recovery. That was the case with my daughter. The mental effects are real, but hard to differentiate from the effects of the mental state that drove the suicide attempt. Note, the success rate varies. Older people succeed at a higher rate. And so do men.

Brybry 2y ago
That wiki article cites https://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/wisqars https://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/wisqars (which I guess is now https://wisqars.cdc.gov/ https://wisqars.cdc.gov/) and doesn't really show us how that number came about. But let's say you look at 2022 data for Fatal/NonFatal Injury Reports.[1] 49,476 suicide deaths with 14.85/100k crude rate and 14.25 age-adjusted rate. There is no 'suicide attempt' category that I can find for NonFatal. There's a self-harm category.[2] 544,992 self-harm non-fatal injuries with 163.52/100k crude rate and 172.91 age-adjusted rate. Sure, we could divide those out and reach roughly 1 in 11 to 1 in 12. But if you look at the definition for self-harm intent in the coding manual[3] you'll see that it's not just suicide -- it's all forms of self-harm including mutilation. So it's probably not an accurate number, even for a naive estimate. I would want a better source (surely someone somewhere has written a paper on this). [1] https://wisqars.cdc.gov/reports/?o=MORT&y1=2022&y2=2022&t=0&d=&i=0&m=20810&g=00&me=0&s=0&r=0&ry=2&e=0&yp=65&a=ALL&g1=0&g2=199&a1=0&a2=199&r1=INTENT&r2=NONE&r3=NONE&r4=NONE https://wisqars.cdc.gov/reports/?o=MORT&y1=2022&y2=2022&t=0&... [2] https://wisqars.cdc.gov/reports/?o=NFI&y1=2022&y2=2022&d=0&i=0&m=3000&g=00&me=&s=0&r=&e=&a=ALL&g1=0&g2=199&a1=0&a2=199&r1=INTENT&r2=NONE&r3=NONE&r4=NONE&adv=true https://wisqars.cdc.gov/reports/?o=NFI&y1=2022&y2=2022&d=0&i... [3] https://www.cpsc.gov/s3fs-public/January-2022-CPSC-Only-NT-NEISS-Coding-Manual.pdf?VersionId=KSUolSeeOpWoGAXtq0Zb_EVaHSiOdzFe https://www.cpsc.gov/s3fs-public/January-2022-CPSC-Only-NT-N...

by btilly 2y ago

Brybry 2y ago

That wiki article cites https://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/wisqars https://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/wisqars (which I guess is now https://wisqars.cdc.gov/ https://wisqars.cdc.gov/) and doesn't really show us how that number came about. But let's say you look at 2022 data for Fatal/NonFatal Injury Reports.[1] 49,476 suicide deaths with 14.85/100k crude rate and 14.25 age-adjusted rate. There is no 'suicide attempt' category that I can find for NonFatal. There's a self-harm category.[2] 544,992 self-harm non-fatal injuries with 163.52/100k crude rate and 172.91 age-adjusted rate. Sure, we could divide those out and reach roughly 1 in 11 to 1 in 12. But if you look at the definition for self-harm intent in the coding manual[3] you'll see that it's not just suicide -- it's all forms of self-harm including mutilation. So it's probably not an accurate number, even for a naive estimate. I would want a better source (surely someone somewhere has written a paper on this). [1] https://wisqars.cdc.gov/reports/?o=MORT&y1=2022&y2=2022&t=0&d=&i=0&m=20810&g=00&me=0&s=0&r=0&ry=2&e=0&yp=65&a=ALL&g1=0&g2=199&a1=0&a2=199&r1=INTENT&r2=NONE&r3=NONE&r4=NONE https://wisqars.cdc.gov/reports/?o=MORT&y1=2022&y2=2022&t=0&... [2] https://wisqars.cdc.gov/reports/?o=NFI&y1=2022&y2=2022&d=0&i=0&m=3000&g=00&me=&s=0&r=&e=&a=ALL&g1=0&g2=199&a1=0&a2=199&r1=INTENT&r2=NONE&r3=NONE&r4=NONE&adv=true https://wisqars.cdc.gov/reports/?o=NFI&y1=2022&y2=2022&d=0&i... [3] https://www.cpsc.gov/s3fs-public/January-2022-CPSC-Only-NT-NEISS-Coding-Manual.pdf?VersionId=KSUolSeeOpWoGAXtq0Zb_EVaHSiOdzFe https://www.cpsc.gov/s3fs-public/January-2022-CPSC-Only-NT-N...