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It gives them the right to use your data, for the purpose you indicate by using Firefox. Additionally, from the very next line which you and GP conveniently cho

It gives them the right to use your data, for the purpose you indicate by using Firefox. Additionally, from the very next line which you and GP conveniently chopped out: > This does not give Mozilla any ownership in that content. They've since removed the reference to the privacy policy since as they said, users are clearly confused by it.

nickthegreek 2y ago
This is a lie. It is not removed. You either didn't check the facts of your point of you are willfully trying to deceive others. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/firefox/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/firefox/ > You Give Mozilla Certain Rights and Permissions > You give Mozilla the rights necessary to operate Firefox. This includes processing your data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice. It also includes a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license for the purpose of doing as you request with the content you input in Firefox. This does not give Mozilla any ownership in that content. The next line does not alter the first, hence why I did not include it. I also didnt include the rest of the ToS that has no bearing on my point.
- chownie 2y ago
  > This is a lie. It is not removed. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms... Read the italicised text.
  - nickthegreek 2y ago
    You said the text was removed. I gave you irrefutable evidence it wasn't. Your reading comprehension issues in both this conversation and the blind interpretation of their documents lead me to believe that you are not ready to have a conversation on this topic.
yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43252629 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43252629 was entirely about "ownership" not being relevant
- chownie 2y ago
  Was it? That comment is constituted from two quotes, one of them entirely fabricated, and then a hypothetical provided with no basis. If Mozilla don't own the data and their license only allows Firefox to do what you're requesting it do, then I don't see what points are being made except fearmongering.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
    Yes, it was. If you want to argue that Mozilla won't/can't use data except for serving user requests, then by all means argue that, but pointing out that they don't own the data is moving the goalposts because you're doing so under a comment that talks about ownership being more or less irrelevant.

nickthegreek 2y ago

This is a lie. It is not removed. You either didn't check the facts of your point of you are willfully trying to deceive others. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/firefox/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/firefox/ > You Give Mozilla Certain Rights and Permissions > You give Mozilla the rights necessary to operate Firefox. This includes processing your data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice. It also includes a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license for the purpose of doing as you request with the content you input in Firefox. This does not give Mozilla any ownership in that content. The next line does not alter the first, hence why I did not include it. I also didnt include the rest of the ToS that has no bearing on my point.

chownie 2y ago
> This is a lie. It is not removed. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms... Read the italicised text.
- nickthegreek 2y ago
  You said the text was removed. I gave you irrefutable evidence it wasn't. Your reading comprehension issues in both this conversation and the blind interpretation of their documents lead me to believe that you are not ready to have a conversation on this topic.

yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago

? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43252629 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43252629 was entirely about "ownership" not being relevant

chownie 2y ago
Was it? That comment is constituted from two quotes, one of them entirely fabricated, and then a hypothetical provided with no basis. If Mozilla don't own the data and their license only allows Firefox to do what you're requesting it do, then I don't see what points are being made except fearmongering.
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  Yes, it was. If you want to argue that Mozilla won't/can't use data except for serving user requests, then by all means argue that, but pointing out that they don't own the data is moving the goalposts because you're doing so under a comment that talks about ownership being more or less irrelevant.