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Show HN: Free boring character counter but with modern UI
- billybuckwheat 2y agoNice work! A clean, simple but effective tool. Plan to use it in the future as I need it.
- MajorBaguette 2y agoCool thanks! I plan to launch more "boring" tools in a near future, what would you find useful?
- billybuckwheat 2y agoTo be honest, it's hard for me to say what I'd find useful until I need it.
- _mitterpach 2y agoThat's a very nice and polished site, I especially like the sidebar for reading and speaking time, that seems very useful. I notice emojis count as two characters, but that's probably the standard, right? I think there is a large market for apps that just work, they do one thing and one thing well. I remember reading about somebody who makes a living out of their app, which is just a crossword maker, but accessible enough to be used by teachers and ordinary people.
- MajorBaguette 2y agoSome emojis require two UTF-16 code units so yep, standard Thanks btw, I made this one as a test to see how it could perform as I can't stand terrible UI ones. I'll probably launch more. What'd you like to see next ?
- amake 2y ago> Some emojis require two UTF-16 code units so yep, standard But not acceptable in a "character counter", in my opinion. What exactly is the use case for this counter, since it won't align with anyone's real-world intuition for the meaning of "character"?
- MajorBaguette 2y agoYou're actually right, I didn't think of this. My counter is based on JS .length and can get up to 11 characters for specific emojis while X count all emojis as 2 characters. Thanks for highlighting this
- amake 2y agoIt's not counting "characters"; it's counting UTF-16 code units, so for instance a country flag is 4 "characters" because it's two regional indicator symbols, each composed of two surrogates. It should really be using `Intl.Segmenter` instead of `string.length`: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10287887/get-grapheme-character-count-in-javascript-strings https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10287887/get-grapheme-ch...
- _mitterpach 2y agoI mean, if this uses the same calculation as Twitter, Instagram and other sites that limit characters, then it should probably stay as it is, I don't have a problem with that. However, a quirk in the way Unicode handles emoji has meant that some of the symbols take up many more characters than others. For example, a flag can take up as many as 14 spaces in your Tweet. Twitter has announced that it's changing the way it counts emoji so that they're all counted equally, as two characters. - https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/11/17963230/twitter-emoji-character-limit-bug-fixed-diversity https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/11/17963230/twitter-emoji-c... So 4 character flag, which is written as 1 character, is sometimes counted as 2 characters. Honestly, I don't know, I did not expect for this to go so deep.
- amake 2y ago> I mean, if this uses the same calculation as Twitter, Instagram and other sites that limit characters Almost certainly those sites use much more sophisticated counting schemes. > Honestly, I don't know, I did not expect for this to go so deep You're not the creator of the tool in question, so it's OK for you not to know about this stuff, but I would really expect more from someone who is setting out to create a "character counter" tool.
- rrr_oh_man 2y agoNice UI, indeed! I posted the first thing on my clipboard (a YouTube URL) and, interestingly, it showed me Words: 1 Sentences: 3 PS: thank you for not shoveling LLMs into this
- MajorBaguette 2y agoInteresting... I'll have a look at the "algo" Yep no need to over engineer things here :)
- glonq 2y agoi posted an emoji and it counted it as two characters
- rrr_oh_man 2y agoCheck this out if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTzp76JXsoY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTzp76JXsoY (Tom Scott, 3min, "Why Do Flag Emoji Count As Two Characters?") Or even more in depth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mubfp9WYvvI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mubfp9WYvvI (Jennifer Lee, 55min, "Emoji by the People, For the People, a CS50 tech talk")
- amake 2y agoYes, but it raises the question of what exactly the "character" count is supposed to mean. Does anyone need a "UTF-16 code unit count"? Somehow I don't think so. So it should really be counting graphemes, in my opinion.
- rrr_oh_man 2y agoI don't think anyone was arguing this point, really.
- amake 2y agoI am arguing this point, because it’s a huge flaw in the premise of the tool in question.
- mondov 2y agoReally nice UI! and the social media limits are useful. I needed this a few days ago, bookmarked and will use in the future. Thanks!
- super5000 2y agoNice! You could also count LLM tokens, too- that’d be helpful. Note: The Pro threw me off, because Pro typically means “paid SaaS.”
- MajorBaguette 2y agoThat's actually a great idea! I just added general one (I want the app to stay simple + maintaining specific models token cost would be a nightmare)