>ALL of us can find it in the "mundane" and if you find it there you'll find that it won't be garbage Because you will have calibrated you mind to perceive tho

>ALL of us can find it in the "mundane" and if you find it there you'll find that it won't be garbage Because you will have calibrated you mind to perceive those particular things as meaningful! And then (to paraphrase another poster) you've failed the test, hehe. Of course, there is no actual "test". Regardless, next one is scheduled in a generation's time. Ganbatte kudasai to the next class of test-takers! Hallucinogens demonstrate that even the experience of "meaning" can be intentionally induced or suppressed by direct chemical action on the brain. Which realization was expected to "enlighten" people en masse at some point, and I guess in some ways it did. I'd expect taking a pure "meaning potion" would either make people addicted, or make them infuse the outside world with novel meanings, but I ain't seeing that much of either going on. "Meaning" is just referentiality. Thing A means thing B; these squiggles mean "no swimming"; this stack pointer means that struct over there on the heap, etc. "Meaningfulness" (banned word, hehe) is an abstract quality which you attribute to things whose meaning you've successfully parsed - usually when you parse them for the first time, and you go like, "oh, so now I see what this means (to me)!" One of my favorite musicians has a pretty dark song about some teenage hoodlums committing a grisly murder over drugs... its exposition just so happens to contain the line, "and LSD to make it mean more than it meant", which I think is the most succinct description of it. That is to say, "meaningful" itself is a quale, an atom of pure experience that has no identified physical counterpart (though it surely must have one, if it can be induced chemically?) So, just like the means to induce visual experiences is called a display, and the means of inducing sonic ones is called a loudspeaker, the means of inducing abstract mental experiences is... illegal. Huh! :o