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It’s a little silly to write six paragraphs about people having unhelpful responses to something they are powerless to change and then end with “get your shit t

It’s a little silly to write six paragraphs about people having unhelpful responses to something they are powerless to change and then end with “get your shit together”.

jillesvangurp 2y ago
A good first step would be to stop the daily dose of outragism on what Trump, Musk, et al. did yesterday. Gloomy headlines like "The end of Weather Forecasting" are not helpful. The opposite actually. It re-enforces the notion that democrats don't have a better plan. Given that Trump is demolishing federal institutions currently, what's the plan for rebuilding those? Raise a lot of taxes and rehire everyone? Might not go down that well with voters. Restore it exactly as it was in all its gridlocked and dysfunctional ways? Same thing. That's not a plan. It's not even the beginning of a plan. I get that people are upset and emotional about this. But, reality check: it's happening. So, what's the plan forward from that? Simple question. I'm not aware of a coherent debate about any of that. My recommendation would be dealing with the shit that's raining down currently. Accept that federal institutions will have been downsized by the time power reverts to the Democrats. Given that, how do can they make it better? What's their vision for getting things back on the rails? I don't think a reset at the federal level is necessarily that bad even. This seems to be a bit of a taboo topic with democrats. Because it involves admitting that things maybe weren't that perfect. It's easier to whine about how bad things are than it is to suggest concrete alternatives.
- watwut 2y ago
  Nah, that is what democrats were doing for years. Rational discourse does not work. It is not that democrats would never lie or never get emotional or whatever. But what Trump made clear is that rational reasonable plans are not a path anywhere.
- sundaeofshock 2y ago
  Trump and Musk plan to destroy our government institutions and sell off the parts and your advice is to just accept it and come up with a plan for what to do in the aftermath? As someone who actually lives here, I think it is very appropriate to freak out a bit and want to put a stop to this. It’s very easy to destroy, but extremely difficult to build back. I like the post office, national parks, and the national weather service and would like to keep them as is, thank you very much. Your attitude, shared by centrists in the US, is why we are in this current situation. Might I suggest you worry more about the AfD and less about US politics?

It’s a little silly to write six paragraphs about people having unhelpful responses to something they are powerless to change and then end with “get your shit together”.

jillesvangurp 2y ago

A good first step would be to stop the daily dose of outragism on what Trump, Musk, et al. did yesterday. Gloomy headlines like "The end of Weather Forecasting" are not helpful. The opposite actually. It re-enforces the notion that democrats don't have a better plan. Given that Trump is demolishing federal institutions currently, what's the plan for rebuilding those? Raise a lot of taxes and rehire everyone? Might not go down that well with voters. Restore it exactly as it was in all its gridlocked and dysfunctional ways? Same thing. That's not a plan. It's not even the beginning of a plan. I get that people are upset and emotional about this. But, reality check: it's happening. So, what's the plan forward from that? Simple question. I'm not aware of a coherent debate about any of that. My recommendation would be dealing with the shit that's raining down currently. Accept that federal institutions will have been downsized by the time power reverts to the Democrats. Given that, how do can they make it better? What's their vision for getting things back on the rails? I don't think a reset at the federal level is necessarily that bad even. This seems to be a bit of a taboo topic with democrats. Because it involves admitting that things maybe weren't that perfect. It's easier to whine about how bad things are than it is to suggest concrete alternatives.

watwut 2y ago
Nah, that is what democrats were doing for years. Rational discourse does not work. It is not that democrats would never lie or never get emotional or whatever. But what Trump made clear is that rational reasonable plans are not a path anywhere.
sundaeofshock 2y ago
Trump and Musk plan to destroy our government institutions and sell off the parts and your advice is to just accept it and come up with a plan for what to do in the aftermath? As someone who actually lives here, I think it is very appropriate to freak out a bit and want to put a stop to this. It’s very easy to destroy, but extremely difficult to build back. I like the post office, national parks, and the national weather service and would like to keep them as is, thank you very much. Your attitude, shared by centrists in the US, is why we are in this current situation. Might I suggest you worry more about the AfD and less about US politics?