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50% of Americans will find out if this is what they thought will "Make America Great Again". Destroying our relationship with our neighbors and embracing Russi
by sleepyguy 2y ago
50% of Americans will find out if this is what they thought will "Make America Great Again".
Destroying our relationship with our neighbors and embracing Russia, Iran, and North Korea by assisting them in destroying Ukraine and the Western alliance.
- pm90 2y agoAt every step of this increasingly demented reality Ive thought, this is it, this has gone too far, surely nobody will accept this and most Americans shrugged. I hold no hope that anything can motivate the general public to pay attention.
- dinobones 2y agoThe reason is: It doesn't affect their pocket books. Meanwhile property prices and 401ks are up, old people (the largest cohort of voters) really just don't care. I wish people had more empathy for others, but they don't. They mostly only care about taxes and their personal wealth. This level of personal greed-individualism is partly what makes America great in the good times, but awful when things get bad.
- Jtsummers 2y agoStocks are down over the last month. Depending on the risk profile of investors, many will find their 401k plans down soon as well.
- rsynnott 2y ago> The reason is: It doesn't affect their pocket books. I mean, a trade war absolutely will. > Meanwhile property prices and 401ks are up The S&P500 is down YTD. That said, this will probably all take a while to sink in.
- charlescearl 2y agoAt least 30% of seniors in the US are living precariously and that is likely to increase as SSA benefits are gutted. The statistics are even worse when disaggregated by race, ethnicity, gender. https://www.ncoa.org/article/get-the-facts-on-economic-security-for-seniors/ https://www.ncoa.org/article/get-the-facts-on-economic-secur... As militant actions in Greece, France, and places across the globe attest, voting is not nor should be the only sphere of political engagement.
- bloopernova 2y agoThey'll be living in the Parable of the Sower type dystopia before they realise they should have done something years ago.
- brador 2y agoParable of the sower: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Sower_(novel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Sower_(novel)
- charlescearl 2y agoPeople always cite Parable of the Sower as proof of an inevitable dystopian collapse. They fail to then point out that Octavia Butler’s protagonists constructed Earthseed, a commune that stood in opposition to MAGA.
- bloopernova 2y agoIdeally we'd get the Earthseed commune without the huge suffering that came before it! I don't think the collapse is inevitable. I lean towards doomerism but I know I can't predict what's going to happen next week, let alone next decade.
- p2detar 2y agoThe timescale of political events got somehow compressed: every day is a week, every week a month, every month a year.
- Rapzid 2y agoIt's really only been 6 weeks. People need to catch their breath. I'd anticipate a massive escalation in push back.
- munk-a 2y agoI wouldn't be surprised if it starts up pretty soon as the gigantic tax cuts were just made permanent - that likely means the folks with money have gotten everything they needed out of this administration.
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- bigyabai 2y ago"It's not the fall that kills you; it's the sudden stop at the end."
- hedora 2y agoLess than 40%. (Plenty of people didn’t vote… They should have, but that doesn’t imply they wanted this.)
- andrewinardeer 2y agoIf you don't participate in the democratic process you don't have a right to complain when it affects you.
- skinnymuch 2y agoA democratic process being a one time thing every couple of years isn’t really democratic.
- _aavaa_ 2y agoIt isn’t a one time thing. Voting is the bare minimum and likely takes the least effort of all other types of civic engagement, perhaps only behind signing an online petition.
- e40 2y ago36% of eligible voters didn’t vote, so roughly half of 64% or 32% voted for this shitshow.
- munk-a 2y ago
- DamnYuppie 2y ago[flagged]
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> we will get what we want Can you point to a single trade war in which the obvious winners were random third parties? (And smugglers.)
- ygjb 2y ago[flagged]
- beardyw 2y ago> theocracy If you mean a Christian one, I can't see it. Trump's discomfort at having even Sunday School levels of belief explained to him makes me doubt he could sustain that.
- DamnYuppie 2y ago[flagged]
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