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This is, unfortunately about one thing only: The Nobel Peace Prize. As Trump sees it, Zelenskyy is blocking Trump's peace prize by not agreeing to his (very ba
by kstenerud 2y ago
This is, unfortunately about one thing only: The Nobel Peace Prize.
As Trump sees it, Zelenskyy is blocking Trump's peace prize by not agreeing to his (very bad) terms that are designed with one purpose in mind: Quickly freezing the conflict so that he can declare himself peacemaker and get his prize (because Obama got his 9 months into his term).
The Russians have been grooming him since the 80s (along with many others of that era - standard Soviet practice), flattering him and selling him on dreams of being president, and then after Obama got a peace prize, of getting his own Nobel prize.
Watch what his aides are saying about the Nobel prize. He wants it BAD.
This is why he told Zelenskyy: “You’re either going to make a deal or we’re out. And if we’re out, you’ll fight it out. I don’t think that it’s going to be pretty, but you’ll fight it out. But you don’t have the cards.” This is why he said “Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me.” This is why he booted Zenelskyy out of the White House and banned him until he's “ready for peace”
This is why he's going to end the sanctions against Russia, and if Europe continues to support Ukraine, sanction them instead. Anyone who blocks his Nobel Peace Prize is the enemy.
Trump: “They probably will never give it to me, even what I’m doing in Korea, and in Idlib province and all of these places. They probably will never give it to me. You know why? Because they don’t want to.”
Trump: “They will never give me a Nobel Peace Prize. It’s too bad. I deserve it, but they will never give it to me.”
- BobbyTables2 2y agoWas news to me, but crazy enough to seem plausible. I now see a lot of news headlines talking about it. On the bright side, if that happens, Alfred Nobel’s grave will become a perpetual motion machine…
- Terr_ 2y agospin = audience_size * ((renown + defamation) / skeleton_mass https://dresdencodak.com/2010/06/10/dark-science-02/ https://dresdencodak.com/2010/06/10/dark-science-02/
- kstenerud 2y agoThe thing is, the Nobel Committee for the Peace Prize is Norwegian. And Norway has a land border with Russia...
- geysersam 2y agoThe thing what? That has absolutely nothing to do with it
- echoangle 2y agoYou don’t think Norwegians will hesitate to give trump the peace price if he does what he does?
- Gud 2y agoThey absolutely will not give it to Trump. If anyone will get it, it will be the people of Ukraine.
- jajko 2y agoDude 'nobel' peace prize has nothing to do with actual scientific Nobel prices as they were originally intended, its highly political medal for various political stances and activism dobe by very different people. The list of its recipients with properly shameful past ain't short neither and I don't recall a single one recently which wasn't somehow controversial to put it mildly.
- dagss 2y agoAs a Norwegian ... the odds of a committee formed in Norway to select Trump for the peace prize is just zero.
- geysersam 2y agoI didn't say that. I said their border with Russia doesn't influence that decision.
- Rzor 2y agoThis is quite inconsistent because Trump conditioned the rare earths deal. If he wanted peace that badly, he wouldn’t be imposing that. Also, you don’t win a Peace Nobel by being a system spoiler like he is, creating instability left and right and branding a stick. That’s completely delusional, even for him. He goes around talking about annexing Canada, taking Greenland, and displacing Palestinians -- where’s the peace in that? Obama got his without doing shit, guess why: the Nobel Peace Prize is about who you upset, and I very much doubt the committee is fond of Trump, especially since they gave the prize to Obama.
- theragra 2y agoTrump wants "wins", whatever they might be. No luck with rare metals - try with nobel prize.
- DrNosferatu 2y agoObama got the Nobel prize simply for not being Bush.
- darthrupert 2y agoThey gave Obama the peace prize before he had done anything. He even mentioned how weird it was in his speech. I think we can say that the image of that prize is already in the mud, but of course giving it to Trump at this point would finish it off.
- 7bit 2y agoThis is not about the novel peace price. This is about resources that the US wants. And it's about displaying power. Don't make it anything less by talking about the novel prize.
- throwaway48476 2y agoSomeone told trump he could get a peace prize for ending the war in Ukraine. They forgot to tell him that it's the Europeans who give it.
- nprateem 2y agoThis makes no sense. Zelenskyy should just have said "If Russia won't break any treaty, you shouldn't have a problem providing a backstop" Trump just wants to rape Ukraine while he can. It's nothing to do with peace. If he was serious he could offer a backstop and get peace over night.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y ago> It's nothing to do with peace. OP never said it was about peace but about Trump winning the Nobel Peace Prize. > Trump just wants to rape Ukraine while he can. He wants to do this and get the Nobel Peace Prize for it. Does that really seem an implausible goal with this guy?
- nprateem 2y agoWell normally they're related (although Obama got one before doing much)