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> May still hold true, the 2s10s has recently deinverted, which is typically the last stage pre-recession. Perhaps worth noting that Harvey's original paper wa
by throw0101d 2y ago
> May still hold true, the 2s10s has recently deinverted, which is typically the last stage pre-recession.
Perhaps worth noting that Harvey's original paper was about 3-month and 10-year Treasuries, but 2-year is now used by some folks:
> To determine whether the yield curve is inverted, it is a common practice to compare the yield on the 10-year U.S. Treasury bond to either a 2-year Treasury note or a 3-month Treasury bill. If the 10-year yield is less than the 2-year or 3-month yield, the curve is inverted.[4][5][6][7]
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_yield_curve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_yield_curve
* https://people.duke.edu/~charvey/Term_structure/Harvey.pdf https://people.duke.edu/~charvey/Term_structure/Harvey.pdf
> Harvey: Flat or inverted yield curves are historically associated with slow economic growth or recessions. I did notice that the yield curve inversion of the 10-year Treasury bond and the 3-month Treasury bill yield curve preceded all four recession since the 1960s. My dissertation committee at the University of Chicago was concerned that this might be a fluke given there were only four recessions. Frankly, I was nervous too because it is well known in science that strong findings become weaker after publication -- or sometimes vanish. However, in my case, this did not happen. Yield curve inversions preceded each of the next three recessions, including the important global financial crisis.
* https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/yield-curve-inversion-explained-campbell-harvey https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/yield-curve-inversion-explain...
- smallmancontrov 2y agoI always wondered about the choice of 2 years, it's fascinating to learn that the original choice was 3 months. What motivated the change? Is 3 months so short that it captures "noise" not related to long term planning or something?
- H8crilA 2y agoIt's not really clear which one is "objectively better" to look at. The tradeoffs are exactly those that you've listed. But you know, for a given point of time you can look at the entire yield curve - that's what I usually do. And when it comes to plotting you can plot both differences (it's easy to do in FRED, you can do many fun things with time series there).
- mhh__ 2y agoKind of the other way around in some ways e.g. at very short end of the yield curve you are basically just trading the market expectation of what the Fed will do, +- credit and liquidity and so on, whereas further out things are way more complicated and reflect various risk premia and higher order sensitivity to rates, and so on.