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The real fun ones are called motorcycles and they're way more affordable when you look at smiles per dollar.

by Etheryte 2y ago

platz 2y ago
But there's nowhere to put your coffee mug
- RandomBacon 2y ago
  They make handlebar attachments for that, but good luck if the mug doesn't have a lid.
lazyasciiart 2y ago
Also it’s good for society to have a supply of organs for people who need transplants, and since so many people are unwilling to give up a kidney while living that takes a steady stream of abrupt deaths.
- theshackleford 2y ago
  I mean this is certainly a take. Equally I’ve been riding since I was five and 35 years later I have all my organs so perhaps the future really isn’t set in stone.
  - wizzwizz4 2y ago
    That you're still here to write that comment is selection bias. (Also: riding since you're 5 suggests you're probably good at it, which is a different kind of selection bias.)
    - theshackleford 2y ago
      This is correct to be fair. I’m not sure I’m good at it though, just…realistic. I do know people who died riding, four of them over the years. A few more who had accidents, including a guy that was run over by a truck causing his leg to explode like a sausage. The cause was almost always the same, riding beyond their abilities. I’ve never had any illusions as to the fact that I’m not Valentino Rossi and I’m pretty sure this is why I survive. I drive exactly the same way, extremely defensive and within my abilities. I treat being in control of a vehicle with a level of seriousness I don’t see from most. If someone discusses motorcycling with me, and they can’t convince me they are going to approach it in much the same way, I advise against getting on one as heavily as I can. The very first person to die that I knew was an 18 year old work experience kid who took it up because me and my friend both rode and he thought it was cool, we were young ourselves still and encouraged it. He died on his first trip on a popular route for weekend riding, only a few corners in. From witness accounts he tried taking a corner at the same pace as the older more experienced dudes, entered with way too much speed and that was that. Dude was still on his learners, didn’t even make it to his full license :(
achenet 2y ago
motorcycles are also significantly more dangerous, regrettably. I used to be very into them when I was younger, and then having multiple friends get into motorcycle accidents kinda turned me off of them :/
- Etheryte 2y ago
  A relative of mine runs a motorcycle school and that's what originally got me into it. While bikes are dangerous, a regrettably high percentage of the accidents are things that were completely avoidable if safe and defensive driving practices were used. In my subjective opinion it's a completely separate mindset you need to develop and the minimum required program simply does not come anywhere close to that. As the saying goes, on a bike it's only a matter of when you fall, not if, so all the gear all the time.
- theshackleford 2y ago
  I had some friends, I say friends. They are dead because you can’t treat motorcycling like driving. You have to actually pay attention and not act like a tool if you want to live. I am able to pay attention and am not a tool, I am still alive. edit For context, in my country a not insignificant amount of motorcyclists will try and tell you the only thing dangerous about riding a motorcycle is car drivers, but the statistics simply do not show this. They show that the majority of incidents can be attributed to the motorcyclist. Yes, other drivers are heavily represented, just not to the levels of your average "I can do no wrong" motorcyclist would try to convince you of.

The real fun ones are called motorcycles and they're way more affordable when you look at smiles per dollar.

platz 2y ago

But there's nowhere to put your coffee mug

RandomBacon 2y ago
They make handlebar attachments for that, but good luck if the mug doesn't have a lid.

lazyasciiart 2y ago

Also it’s good for society to have a supply of organs for people who need transplants, and since so many people are unwilling to give up a kidney while living that takes a steady stream of abrupt deaths.

theshackleford 2y ago
I mean this is certainly a take. Equally I’ve been riding since I was five and 35 years later I have all my organs so perhaps the future really isn’t set in stone.
- wizzwizz4 2y ago
  That you're still here to write that comment is selection bias. (Also: riding since you're 5 suggests you're probably good at it, which is a different kind of selection bias.)
  - theshackleford 2y ago
    This is correct to be fair. I’m not sure I’m good at it though, just…realistic. I do know people who died riding, four of them over the years. A few more who had accidents, including a guy that was run over by a truck causing his leg to explode like a sausage. The cause was almost always the same, riding beyond their abilities. I’ve never had any illusions as to the fact that I’m not Valentino Rossi and I’m pretty sure this is why I survive. I drive exactly the same way, extremely defensive and within my abilities. I treat being in control of a vehicle with a level of seriousness I don’t see from most. If someone discusses motorcycling with me, and they can’t convince me they are going to approach it in much the same way, I advise against getting on one as heavily as I can. The very first person to die that I knew was an 18 year old work experience kid who took it up because me and my friend both rode and he thought it was cool, we were young ourselves still and encouraged it. He died on his first trip on a popular route for weekend riding, only a few corners in. From witness accounts he tried taking a corner at the same pace as the older more experienced dudes, entered with way too much speed and that was that. Dude was still on his learners, didn’t even make it to his full license :(

achenet 2y ago

motorcycles are also significantly more dangerous, regrettably. I used to be very into them when I was younger, and then having multiple friends get into motorcycle accidents kinda turned me off of them :/

Etheryte 2y ago
A relative of mine runs a motorcycle school and that's what originally got me into it. While bikes are dangerous, a regrettably high percentage of the accidents are things that were completely avoidable if safe and defensive driving practices were used. In my subjective opinion it's a completely separate mindset you need to develop and the minimum required program simply does not come anywhere close to that. As the saying goes, on a bike it's only a matter of when you fall, not if, so all the gear all the time.
theshackleford 2y ago
I had some friends, I say friends. They are dead because you can’t treat motorcycling like driving. You have to actually pay attention and not act like a tool if you want to live. I am able to pay attention and am not a tool, I am still alive. edit For context, in my country a not insignificant amount of motorcyclists will try and tell you the only thing dangerous about riding a motorcycle is car drivers, but the statistics simply do not show this. They show that the majority of incidents can be attributed to the motorcyclist. Yes, other drivers are heavily represented, just not to the levels of your average "I can do no wrong" motorcyclist would try to convince you of.