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Kind of in a ranty mood today. I'd gladly pay to support development of Firefox if it were possible to fund it directly via something like a recurring subscrip

Kind of in a ranty mood today. I'd gladly pay to support development of Firefox if it were possible to fund it directly via something like a recurring subscription. Instead my only option is to donate to the Mozilla foundation which lists the following salaries for their executives (according to Charity Navigator): Mark Surman, President & Executive Director - $661,886 J Bob Alotta, Svp, Global Programs - $417,327 Angela Plohman, Coo, Secretary & Treasurer - $415,549 Ashley Boyd, Svp, Global Advocacy - $368,445 No thanks. While I don't expect people to work for free there is no way I'm going to make charitable contributions that support those kinds of salaries considering their failed stewardship of Firefox.

gruez 2y ago
Are those supposed to be high? What's a reasonable salary for executives? The same site lists the following salaries for American Red Cross: Gail Mcgovern, President & Ceo $859,260 Clifford Holtz, Chief Operating Officer $749,814 Chris Hrouda, President Of Biomedical Services $696,337 Shaun Gilmore, Chief Transformation Officer $619,929 Brian Rhoa, Chief Investment Officer $610,239 Is there any indication Mozilla's salaries are too high aside from "higher pay than FAANG engineers"?
- alyandon 2y ago
  Are those supposed to be high? Yes, for me they are high relative to the apparent value they bring to the table regarding Firefox. What's a reasonable salary for executives? I won't take a hard position on that. I'd examine the mission of the charity, how well they execute on that mission, what their contribution is to the betterment of humanity, etc to arrive at a value. Is there any indication Mozilla's salaries are too high aside from "higher pay than FAANG engineers"? For me - yes. Exactly for the reasons I stated.
- hasperdi 2y ago
  Those are high salaries. I make less than them, and I don't want to donate my hard earned salary to richer people than myself. I bet if you get rid of those bunch, it will have net positive effect on Mozilla. These people are just leeches IMO. They get paid X number of times of the average Mozilla employee, but they don't really deliver X number of times the value.
- stubish 2y ago
  The salaries might not be high for the job they are doing. But those jobs probably shouldn't exist at all given that most people here want to see a web browser developed and maintained, and not whatever Mozilla Corp is doing that actually requires an executive director or vice presidents of anything.
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beretguy 2y ago
Agree. I already pay for Kagi and Proton Unlimited, I don't mind paying for things that worth it, that I can trust.
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gruez 2y ago

Are those supposed to be high? What's a reasonable salary for executives? The same site lists the following salaries for American Red Cross: Gail Mcgovern, President & Ceo $859,260 Clifford Holtz, Chief Operating Officer $749,814 Chris Hrouda, President Of Biomedical Services $696,337 Shaun Gilmore, Chief Transformation Officer $619,929 Brian Rhoa, Chief Investment Officer $610,239 Is there any indication Mozilla's salaries are too high aside from "higher pay than FAANG engineers"?

alyandon 2y ago
Are those supposed to be high? Yes, for me they are high relative to the apparent value they bring to the table regarding Firefox. What's a reasonable salary for executives? I won't take a hard position on that. I'd examine the mission of the charity, how well they execute on that mission, what their contribution is to the betterment of humanity, etc to arrive at a value. Is there any indication Mozilla's salaries are too high aside from "higher pay than FAANG engineers"? For me - yes. Exactly for the reasons I stated.
hasperdi 2y ago
Those are high salaries. I make less than them, and I don't want to donate my hard earned salary to richer people than myself. I bet if you get rid of those bunch, it will have net positive effect on Mozilla. These people are just leeches IMO. They get paid X number of times of the average Mozilla employee, but they don't really deliver X number of times the value.
stubish 2y ago
The salaries might not be high for the job they are doing. But those jobs probably shouldn't exist at all given that most people here want to see a web browser developed and maintained, and not whatever Mozilla Corp is doing that actually requires an executive director or vice presidents of anything.

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beretguy 2y ago

Agree. I already pay for Kagi and Proton Unlimited, I don't mind paying for things that worth it, that I can trust.

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