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The US faces 'devastating' losses for weather forecasts

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
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- watwut 2y ago
  I do not see any efforts or plans to make "more efficient" or "technologically supported" or even "harder working force". Like, none at all. You need to spend money to make technological improvements. You do not achieve harder working force by firing people randomly. And if you want to be efficient, you have to think first. Also, weather balloons are automated data collection. Satellites are more expensive, so if you replace balloons by satellites, Musk may get richer, but money wont be saved. Also, most jobs get weekends, generally you do not worry about arbitrary firing tomorrow aaaand most of us can afford mistakes. Especially programmers and tech types.
- dredmorbius 2y ago
  This is literally the state of most jobs. There’s no reason public jobs should have more protection. There's no reason private jobs should have less protection, or that this be the status of most jobs. See for example The Great Risk Shift, Jacob S. Hacker (2006): <https://calitreview.com/the-disquieting-effects-of-the-new-economy-by-jacob-s-hacker/ https://calitreview.com/the-disquieting-effects-of-the-new-e...> <https://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/books/review/Leonhardt.t.html https://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/books/review/Leonhardt.t....>
ChrisArchitect 2y ago
Related: The American Weather Forecast Is in Trouble https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43224862 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43224862
taylodl 2y ago
Interesting. Is Musk not aware that SpaceX relies on NOAA forecasts to determine safe launch windows? Are these people aware that farmers critically depend on this service? I know the GOP hates the climate data, but farmers need that data, which is why it was being collected in the first place. Are these people aware of how much industry critically depend on this service? They need to know storm paths and impacts to understand whether operations should be curtailed or halted. Think offshore oil rigs as just one example. Aviation is another example. I don't think a Ready, Fire, Aim approach is the right way to go about reducing government spending. In fact, it's stupid.

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watwut 2y ago
I do not see any efforts or plans to make "more efficient" or "technologically supported" or even "harder working force". Like, none at all. You need to spend money to make technological improvements. You do not achieve harder working force by firing people randomly. And if you want to be efficient, you have to think first. Also, weather balloons are automated data collection. Satellites are more expensive, so if you replace balloons by satellites, Musk may get richer, but money wont be saved. Also, most jobs get weekends, generally you do not worry about arbitrary firing tomorrow aaaand most of us can afford mistakes. Especially programmers and tech types.
dredmorbius 2y ago
This is literally the state of most jobs. There’s no reason public jobs should have more protection. There's no reason private jobs should have less protection, or that this be the status of most jobs. See for example The Great Risk Shift, Jacob S. Hacker (2006): <https://calitreview.com/the-disquieting-effects-of-the-new-economy-by-jacob-s-hacker/ https://calitreview.com/the-disquieting-effects-of-the-new-e...> <https://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/books/review/Leonhardt.t.html https://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/books/review/Leonhardt.t....>

Related: The American Weather Forecast Is in Trouble https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43224862 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43224862

taylodl 2y ago

Interesting. Is Musk not aware that SpaceX relies on NOAA forecasts to determine safe launch windows? Are these people aware that farmers critically depend on this service? I know the GOP hates the climate data, but farmers need that data, which is why it was being collected in the first place. Are these people aware of how much industry critically depend on this service? They need to know storm paths and impacts to understand whether operations should be curtailed or halted. Think offshore oil rigs as just one example. Aviation is another example. I don't think a Ready, Fire, Aim approach is the right way to go about reducing government spending. In fact, it's stupid.