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This reads like a piece of defense propaganda. "Undoing the 1990s decision" - should we really return the US defense industry to cold-war levels? The world has

This reads like a piece of defense propaganda. "Undoing the 1990s decision" - should we really return the US defense industry to cold-war levels? The world has changed, and the threat of outright war with the US is dramatically lower than 4 decades ago. Yes, China is an adversary, but to say that it's an existential threat to the US the same way the Soviet Union was is absurd.

uejfiweun 2y ago
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- ok_dad 2y ago
  Claims that other people are propagandizing are ridiculous with zero evidence, that’s some FUD BS. Make a better argument against OP if you’re so sure.
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- barbazoo 2y ago
  > And they (China) are explicitly interested in overturning the global order. - Putin is actively taking Ukrainian territory by force - Trump is threatening to take Greenland, Canada and the Panama canal by (economic) force - Xi Jinping is threatening to take Taiwanese territory by force Of all three, Jinping seems like the smallest threat to the "world order". If you're talking about economic power, that's a different story but I wouldn't call them "adversary" in that context.
  - stickfigure 2y ago
    Nobody takes Trump's comments seriously. Possibly not even Trump. Putin is in a hot war right now. Xi seems to be actively preparing for one. The chance of the US sitting aside a military invasion of Taiwan seems very low to me.
    - Loughla 2y ago
      It's been, what, 10 years of Trump now. If you're not taking what he says seriously, you have failed to learn anything.
      - stickfigure 2y ago
        His first term was mostly inconsequential. The second term looks different so far - especially for the Ukranians - but the Canadians, Mexicans, and Greenlanders/Danes aren't preparing for war. To be honest, I think the US military would flatly refuse. There would be violent revolution in the streets here.
- TheBicPen 2y ago
  Say what you will about the current situation, at least there is no nuclear arms race. I'd say that's a pretty big distinction.

uejfiweun 2y ago

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ok_dad 2y ago
Claims that other people are propagandizing are ridiculous with zero evidence, that’s some FUD BS. Make a better argument against OP if you’re so sure.
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barbazoo 2y ago
> And they (China) are explicitly interested in overturning the global order. - Putin is actively taking Ukrainian territory by force - Trump is threatening to take Greenland, Canada and the Panama canal by (economic) force - Xi Jinping is threatening to take Taiwanese territory by force Of all three, Jinping seems like the smallest threat to the "world order". If you're talking about economic power, that's a different story but I wouldn't call them "adversary" in that context.
- stickfigure 2y ago
  Nobody takes Trump's comments seriously. Possibly not even Trump. Putin is in a hot war right now. Xi seems to be actively preparing for one. The chance of the US sitting aside a military invasion of Taiwan seems very low to me.
  - Loughla 2y ago
    It's been, what, 10 years of Trump now. If you're not taking what he says seriously, you have failed to learn anything.
    - stickfigure 2y ago
      His first term was mostly inconsequential. The second term looks different so far - especially for the Ukranians - but the Canadians, Mexicans, and Greenlanders/Danes aren't preparing for war. To be honest, I think the US military would flatly refuse. There would be violent revolution in the streets here.
TheBicPen 2y ago
Say what you will about the current situation, at least there is no nuclear arms race. I'd say that's a pretty big distinction.