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The Wii was one of the most successful consoles of all time. Half the games had people standing up and swinging at something. That doesn't track at all.

by dbspin 2y ago

gjsman-1000 2y ago
The main problem for Nintendo was that countless Wii buyers never moved beyond Wii Sports and maybe Mario Kart. Despite having over 100 million units sold, staple franchises sold pretty badly compared to the Switch. Smash Bros Brawl? 13 million sales. Smash Bros Ultimate? 35 million. Animal Crossing City Folk? 3 million. Animal Crossing New Horizons? 47 million. Mario Party 8? 9 million. Super Mario Party? 21 million. Zelda Twilight Princess? 8 million. Zelda Breath of the Wild? 34 million. Basically, the Switch has 50% more units in the world, but you can tack on 200%-400% more sales per franchise entry in general; and some extreme breakouts. For this reason alone, Nintendo is never returning to Wii-era gimmicks, and we’ll probably never see “Nintendo Selects” again.
- sleepybrett 2y ago
  You know that the wiimotes have IMUs in them and motion games are still a thing on that platform, right? The thing that really made the switch sell was it's portability.
- karakoram_2 2y ago
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- weberer 2y ago
  The Wii was also extremely easily hackable. Everybody I knew in college were pirating Wii games.
prmoustache 2y ago
I think that was purely from the novelty factor and because it initially attracted a lot of people who weren't into gaming. Past the first few funny weeks when people would let visitors try wii sports and have a few laughs, the thing ended up collecting dust in most households with no kids.
- relaxing 2y ago
  Wii Sports 2 sold 30M units, 3 years post launch. That’s top 30 for all platforms all time. Even 5 years post launch Just Dance 3 sold 10M units.
  - darkhorse222 2y ago
    Just dance is for young children playing with their friends. That is not the core gaming market.
darkhorse222 2y ago
Let's stack up all PC games and all console games and let's see which ones involve physical movement and then see how long people stick with those games. Do you know any gamers? I do. They don't want to move.
- dbspin 2y ago
  'Gamers' are now everyone. 1.7 billion men and 1.39 billion women - essentially anyone with a mobile device. One of the biggest gaming hits of the last decade was Pokemon Go, which literally requires a walk. 'Gamers don't want to move', is just nerd bashing. It's 2025, even amongst hardcore D&D playing, JRPG stanning, con attending 'weeb' adjacent ubernerds, fitness is in. Sure Americans, and increasingly Europeans are tending toward obesity, but suggesting thats a characteristic of 'gamers' as a class is just factually incorrect. 1 - https://explodingtopics.com/blog/number-of-gamers https://explodingtopics.com/blog/number-of-gamers

The Wii was one of the most successful consoles of all time. Half the games had people standing up and swinging at something. That doesn't track at all.

by dbspin 2y ago

The Wii was one of the most successful consoles of all time. Half the games had people standing up and swinging at something. That doesn't track at all.

gjsman-1000 2y ago

The main problem for Nintendo was that countless Wii buyers never moved beyond Wii Sports and maybe Mario Kart. Despite having over 100 million units sold, staple franchises sold pretty badly compared to the Switch. Smash Bros Brawl? 13 million sales. Smash Bros Ultimate? 35 million. Animal Crossing City Folk? 3 million. Animal Crossing New Horizons? 47 million. Mario Party 8? 9 million. Super Mario Party? 21 million. Zelda Twilight Princess? 8 million. Zelda Breath of the Wild? 34 million. Basically, the Switch has 50% more units in the world, but you can tack on 200%-400% more sales per franchise entry in general; and some extreme breakouts. For this reason alone, Nintendo is never returning to Wii-era gimmicks, and we’ll probably never see “Nintendo Selects” again.

sleepybrett 2y ago
You know that the wiimotes have IMUs in them and motion games are still a thing on that platform, right? The thing that really made the switch sell was it's portability.
karakoram_2 2y ago
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weberer 2y ago
The Wii was also extremely easily hackable. Everybody I knew in college were pirating Wii games.

prmoustache 2y ago

I think that was purely from the novelty factor and because it initially attracted a lot of people who weren't into gaming. Past the first few funny weeks when people would let visitors try wii sports and have a few laughs, the thing ended up collecting dust in most households with no kids.

relaxing 2y ago
Wii Sports 2 sold 30M units, 3 years post launch. That’s top 30 for all platforms all time. Even 5 years post launch Just Dance 3 sold 10M units.
- darkhorse222 2y ago
  Just dance is for young children playing with their friends. That is not the core gaming market.

darkhorse222 2y ago

Let's stack up all PC games and all console games and let's see which ones involve physical movement and then see how long people stick with those games. Do you know any gamers? I do. They don't want to move.

dbspin 2y ago
'Gamers' are now everyone. 1.7 billion men and 1.39 billion women - essentially anyone with a mobile device. One of the biggest gaming hits of the last decade was Pokemon Go, which literally requires a walk. 'Gamers don't want to move', is just nerd bashing. It's 2025, even amongst hardcore D&D playing, JRPG stanning, con attending 'weeb' adjacent ubernerds, fitness is in. Sure Americans, and increasingly Europeans are tending toward obesity, but suggesting thats a characteristic of 'gamers' as a class is just factually incorrect. 1 - https://explodingtopics.com/blog/number-of-gamers https://explodingtopics.com/blog/number-of-gamers