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Apologies, but I fail to see how your post has anything to so with Amazon warehouses using drones to deliver stuff. > Many women died in childbirth. Many peopl

by alt227 2y ago

Apologies, but I fail to see how your post has anything to so with Amazon warehouses using drones to deliver stuff. > Many women died in childbirth. Many people starved to death in a drought year. Specific to this article, many of those who survived lost their teeth because they didn't have toothpaste. Personally I would say that advances in science and healthcare has helped these things, not capitalist corporations with big warehouses unnecesarily shipping consumer products around the world.

fragmede 2y ago
did those advances in science and health care happen in a vacuum? In some system outside of capitalism where the doctors and scientists weren't supported by being able to buy consumer products in a store? Did the doctoring not happen with the benefit of, say scaples and medication getting put onto trucks and shipped to a warehouse and then distributed to hospitals and clinics?
- GuinansEyebrows 2y ago
  Most of those advances are a result of government funding.
  - fragmede 2y ago
    Absolutely! Not sure where I said corporations deserve all the credit for modern society.
  - bluGill 2y ago
    The government only had enough surplus to extract from the population because of capitalism.
- alt227 2y ago
  > Did the doctoring not happen with the benefit of, say, scaples and medication getting put onto trucks and shipped to a warehouse and then distributed to hospitals and clinics Umm no? In 1600BC when the Egyptians were first performing autopsies and writing about the human anatomy, they were not ordering scalpels off Amazon. When Aristotle first identified the difference between arteries and veins in 4th Century BC, I doubt he got his magnifying lenses shipped next day from a warehouse. When Leonardo da Vinci made his incredible drawings of the human skeleton and mapped out the human anatomy for the first time in 1510, I dont think he needed to sign a drivers delivery note for his pencils and paper. I think you need to step back a little bit and take a good look at what you are arguing. I am no longer going to reply to this nonsense. Thanks for the fun!
- coliveira 2y ago
  Look at the state of health care in Cuba for a different perspective.
  - bluGill 2y ago
    Cuba benefits from a lot of the advances done elsewhere. They are not standing alone, but standing on the shoulders of giants (just like everyone else). They don't have everything we have elsewhere, but they have a lot of it and so there are only a few gaps to attempt to fill in.
bluGill 2y ago
Capitalism provided the necessary wealth to enable those advancements. Sure there were a few in history, but a few people doing investigation doesn't advance nearly as fast as we have been for the last several hundred years. Without capitalism we wouldn't even be able to support the world population and thus would have less surplus to put into science. Yes we did have science before, but capitalism was what provided it in more than tiny amounts.

by alt227 2y ago

fragmede 2y ago

did those advances in science and health care happen in a vacuum? In some system outside of capitalism where the doctors and scientists weren't supported by being able to buy consumer products in a store? Did the doctoring not happen with the benefit of, say scaples and medication getting put onto trucks and shipped to a warehouse and then distributed to hospitals and clinics?

GuinansEyebrows 2y ago
Most of those advances are a result of government funding.
- fragmede 2y ago
  Absolutely! Not sure where I said corporations deserve all the credit for modern society.
- bluGill 2y ago
  The government only had enough surplus to extract from the population because of capitalism.
alt227 2y ago
> Did the doctoring not happen with the benefit of, say, scaples and medication getting put onto trucks and shipped to a warehouse and then distributed to hospitals and clinics Umm no? In 1600BC when the Egyptians were first performing autopsies and writing about the human anatomy, they were not ordering scalpels off Amazon. When Aristotle first identified the difference between arteries and veins in 4th Century BC, I doubt he got his magnifying lenses shipped next day from a warehouse. When Leonardo da Vinci made his incredible drawings of the human skeleton and mapped out the human anatomy for the first time in 1510, I dont think he needed to sign a drivers delivery note for his pencils and paper. I think you need to step back a little bit and take a good look at what you are arguing. I am no longer going to reply to this nonsense. Thanks for the fun!
coliveira 2y ago
Look at the state of health care in Cuba for a different perspective.
- bluGill 2y ago
  Cuba benefits from a lot of the advances done elsewhere. They are not standing alone, but standing on the shoulders of giants (just like everyone else). They don't have everything we have elsewhere, but they have a lot of it and so there are only a few gaps to attempt to fill in.

bluGill 2y ago

Capitalism provided the necessary wealth to enable those advancements. Sure there were a few in history, but a few people doing investigation doesn't advance nearly as fast as we have been for the last several hundred years. Without capitalism we wouldn't even be able to support the world population and thus would have less surplus to put into science. Yes we did have science before, but capitalism was what provided it in more than tiny amounts.