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I'm surprised that you would compare drones loudly delivering cookies and toothpaste, which are arguably "convenient," with halfway houses and power plants. The

by throwway120385 2y ago

I'm surprised that you would compare drones loudly delivering cookies and toothpaste, which are arguably "convenient," with halfway houses and power plants. These people sound entirely reasonable in their opposition to the former, and I don't think you would find many of them opposing the latter in their neighborhood provided the new neighbor followed the norms of the community. That's really what this is about. Amazon installed a bunch of equipment that was so loud in operation that it scared wildlife away and ruined peoples' quiet enjoyment of their property. I could see the community having the same reaction if the halfway house decided to have loud parties in the evening or the power plant was constantly emitting exhaust noise into the neighborhood. But it also strikes me that they're entirely reasonable people who just want some peace and quiet.

fragmede 2y ago
It's also completely reasonable that I don't want a halfway house, with the felons and drug addicts it'll bring even if they aren't throwing loud parties, in my neighborhood. I also don't want trains full of coal to rumble past my house at 1am on their way to the power plant.
- ericmay 2y ago
  Yea in my neighborhood I also don't want drones buzzing around and clouding up my views or disturbing my nice day at the park just to deliver drop-shipped plastic crap from slave factories. I'd rather instead of Amazon continue to gain market share that* we have more local stores so we can rebuild our middle class. Yes in my backyard for more local businesses, sidewalks and walkable neighborhoods, fresh, local produce, and parks, and development, and clear skies without noise disturbances. If you want your packages delivered sooner why not set up your own small communities next to Amazon distribution centers and work out a deal with Amazon to pick up your own packages? Maybe they can even give you a Prime discount for self-pickup?? Technology is just a tool - it's neither progressive nor regressive except in the results of its application usage. I'm not sure where we got this idea that more efficient deliveries == "progress". Progress toward what? Even more efficient deliveries? * Nothing in particular against Amazon versus Wal-Mart or other generic retailers, Amazon is just the topic of the OP.
  - bombcar 2y ago
    > If you want your packages delivered sooner why not set up your own small communities next to Amazon distribution centers and work out a deal with Amazon to pick up your own packages? Maybe they can even give you a Prime discount for self-pickup?? In fact, we could build a large warehouse, with adequate parking and even transit, and the warehouse could be brightly lit, and it could not only allow you to pickup what you ordered, but you could see what was available for sale, and even have self-checkout machines that would take card or cash. We could call it something like "Wall of Markets" or "Walmark" perhaps.

fragmede 2y ago

It's also completely reasonable that I don't want a halfway house, with the felons and drug addicts it'll bring even if they aren't throwing loud parties, in my neighborhood. I also don't want trains full of coal to rumble past my house at 1am on their way to the power plant.

ericmay 2y ago
Yea in my neighborhood I also don't want drones buzzing around and clouding up my views or disturbing my nice day at the park just to deliver drop-shipped plastic crap from slave factories. I'd rather instead of Amazon continue to gain market share that* we have more local stores so we can rebuild our middle class. Yes in my backyard for more local businesses, sidewalks and walkable neighborhoods, fresh, local produce, and parks, and development, and clear skies without noise disturbances. If you want your packages delivered sooner why not set up your own small communities next to Amazon distribution centers and work out a deal with Amazon to pick up your own packages? Maybe they can even give you a Prime discount for self-pickup?? Technology is just a tool - it's neither progressive nor regressive except in the results of its application usage. I'm not sure where we got this idea that more efficient deliveries == "progress". Progress toward what? Even more efficient deliveries? * Nothing in particular against Amazon versus Wal-Mart or other generic retailers, Amazon is just the topic of the OP.
- bombcar 2y ago
  > If you want your packages delivered sooner why not set up your own small communities next to Amazon distribution centers and work out a deal with Amazon to pick up your own packages? Maybe they can even give you a Prime discount for self-pickup?? In fact, we could build a large warehouse, with adequate parking and even transit, and the warehouse could be brightly lit, and it could not only allow you to pickup what you ordered, but you could see what was available for sale, and even have self-checkout machines that would take card or cash. We could call it something like "Wall of Markets" or "Walmark" perhaps.