> Privacy is a key human right that should not be abrogated by the state, ever. Nonsense. The state definitely has the right to seek out criminal and undermini

> Privacy is a key human right that should not be abrogated by the state, ever. Nonsense. The state definitely has the right to seek out criminal and undermining elements. Better, a democratic state has the obligation to do so. > Would you be 'okay' with Russia and China operating their own Pine Gap They do. And there's nothing I can do against it. > even though they have not murdered as many innocent human beings on the basis of lies in one illegal war, after the other, as the USA and its war-crime committing cohorts have. Oh dear, aren't we rabidly anti-West today? I wonder how you square that with your "Privacy is a key human right that should not be abrogated by the state, ever." stance. > Or do you really think that China and Russia have murdered as many civilians as the USA and its minion states have done, this century, in one illegal war after another? Why the sudden switch to "this century"? Your argumentation is switch-and-bait throughout. But China probably has perhaps already murdered more Uygurs, and if we add its "minion" Myanmar, they'll top it.