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Are you weighing and judging thAt USA has killed millions of innocent people because of American Military Industrial complex before buying American products? Yo

Are you weighing and judging thAt USA has killed millions of innocent people because of American Military Industrial complex before buying American products? You can’t divorce a company from it’s countries politics as you say. If you are not judging the USA at the same standards as you do other countries then that would be very hypocritical.

shakna 2y ago
The first few years of my life were in Bolivia. Where our prime minister, for the sin of being elected by the people, was shot dead on the streets of the capital, a street I lived on, by the CIA. I still have friends, who serve Morales today. I am well aware of the sins of the US. Until Trump, the USA was not a direct threat to the nation I now live in. However, nuance is lacking in your response. You cannot divorce a company serving its government, from the politics it lives in. There's little evidence of Y-Combinator, for example, of endeavouring to upend their entire business to serve as spies for the USA. If Kaspersky was divorced from the KGB, politics would not be as considerable a context for understanding their actions.
- throwawayqqq11 2y ago
  > You cannot divorce a company serving its government I would extend that to "a company bound by law", since governments can change. [0] Most people here argue that google, etc. have not been caught stealing/leaking data yet, as if Snowden didnt happen. And as if any foreign citizen data isnt fair game to US juristiction. [1] 0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protect_America_Act_of_2007 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protect_America_Act_of_2007 1: https://www.dni.gov/files/icotr/ACLU%2016-CV-8936%20(RMB)%20001001-001049%20-%20Doc%2017.%20NSA%E2%80%99s%20Training%20on%20FISA%20Amendments%20Act%20Section%20702.pdf https://www.dni.gov/files/icotr/ACLU%2016-CV-8936%20(RMB)%20...
- archerx 2y ago
  So it only matters when it’s direct threat to you huh? All those people who suffered in the Middle East don’t matter? Cool story bro.
  - shakna 2y ago
    Your takeaway, from me living in multiple nations and cultures... Is that I lack consideration for other nations? Thankyou for clarifying that you're not interested in conversation, only antagonism.

shakna 2y ago

The first few years of my life were in Bolivia. Where our prime minister, for the sin of being elected by the people, was shot dead on the streets of the capital, a street I lived on, by the CIA. I still have friends, who serve Morales today. I am well aware of the sins of the US. Until Trump, the USA was not a direct threat to the nation I now live in. However, nuance is lacking in your response. You cannot divorce a company serving its government, from the politics it lives in. There's little evidence of Y-Combinator, for example, of endeavouring to upend their entire business to serve as spies for the USA. If Kaspersky was divorced from the KGB, politics would not be as considerable a context for understanding their actions.

throwawayqqq11 2y ago
> You cannot divorce a company serving its government I would extend that to "a company bound by law", since governments can change. [0] Most people here argue that google, etc. have not been caught stealing/leaking data yet, as if Snowden didnt happen. And as if any foreign citizen data isnt fair game to US juristiction. [1] 0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protect_America_Act_of_2007 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protect_America_Act_of_2007 1: https://www.dni.gov/files/icotr/ACLU%2016-CV-8936%20(RMB)%20001001-001049%20-%20Doc%2017.%20NSA%E2%80%99s%20Training%20on%20FISA%20Amendments%20Act%20Section%20702.pdf https://www.dni.gov/files/icotr/ACLU%2016-CV-8936%20(RMB)%20...
archerx 2y ago
So it only matters when it’s direct threat to you huh? All those people who suffered in the Middle East don’t matter? Cool story bro.
- shakna 2y ago
  Your takeaway, from me living in multiple nations and cultures... Is that I lack consideration for other nations? Thankyou for clarifying that you're not interested in conversation, only antagonism.