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Do you think the fact that new cars have engines that are not rebuildable but only replaceable is just a coincidence? With every year car manufacturers get more
by NullPrefix 2y ago
Do you think the fact that new cars have engines that are not rebuildable but only replaceable is just a coincidence? With every year car manufacturers get more insight in how and when things break, thus allowing the use of more plastic parts in the engine bay
- SR2Z 2y agoIt's not a coincidence - new cars have turbochargers and electronic engine control that provide huge performance/efficiency gains and necessarily are harder to repair. Your average shitty 4-banger from the 80s or 90s is not remotely comparable to a new engine - in almost every respect (including reliability!) the new one is better.
- NullPrefix 2y agoNew engines also have thin blocks, which cannot be honed
- Peanuts99 2y agoNew engines don't ever need to be honed. You can change the performance parameters in software easily enough.
- NullPrefix 2y agohoning is part of rebuild
- SR2Z 2y agoYes, and who exactly is going to rebuild a $2000 engine instead of buying a new one? The labor costs ALONE make that a horrible idea for anyone who isn't a mechanic already - and if an engine lasts ten years the depreciation on the car is intense enough that it doesn't matter.
- NullPrefix 2y agoI doubt you could buy a new engine for $2k. And this whole thing that you are arguing for, it's called throwaway products
- marcus0x62 2y agoTurbochargers date back to the 1920s, and I'd rather troubleshoot a modern EFI/GDI system than a carburetor any day of the week.
- SR2Z 2y agoSure they're old, but my understanding is that outside of diesels and aircraft they were too fiddly and unreliable to put in common use.
- Spooky23 2y agoAlmost any car can go 200,000 miles these days and exceptions (Hyundai/Kia engines, Nissan transmissions) are well known and excoriated. Pre OBD2 cars just didn’t do that. 100k was a significant milestone for the life of the car. Today, it’s a preventative maintenance milestone. Shitty plastic parts aren’t a feature of modern cars, just lousy companies. I had a 1991 Dodge Spirit in college and high school that had a little plastic part in the distributor that broke when it got hot. When it did, the car would just stop if you hit a puddle or turned right quickly. It did so enough that I kept two spares in the trunk. One time the car died on the ramp from the GW Bridge to the West Side Drive. I just stopped on the ramp and fixed it, pissing off hundreds of people in the process.
- NullPrefix 2y ago>Almost any car can go 200,000 miles these days and exceptions Doubt that >Pre OBD2 cars just didn’t do that In Eastern Europe, if the car has 200k-300k km on the odomoter, it only means one thing - the odometer is turned back. Pre OBD2 doing 500k and up is pretty normal here. >little plastic part in the distributor Distributor was always plastic, afaik. I'm talking about plastic water pumps on the new BMWs
- WrongAssumption 2y ago"How Many Miles Does a Car Last? The Bureau of Transportation indicates that the average age across the board for vehicles still on the road is just over 11 years according to Autotrader, and the average may be approaching 12 years. Standard cars in this day and age are expected to keep running up to 200,000 miles, while cars with electric engines are expected to last for up to 300,000 miles." https://www.caranddriver.com/research/a32758625/how-many-miles-does-a-car-last/# https://www.caranddriver.com/research/a32758625/how-many-mil...
- kube-system 2y agoOld BMWs have plastic water pumps. That’s hardly something new.
- shermantanktop 2y ago