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The worst part of this is that Trump's followers are never going to blame him for this. They will find someone, anyone else to make responsible. He will stay in

The worst part of this is that Trump's followers are never going to blame him for this. They will find someone, anyone else to make responsible. He will stay in power, things will get worse, and they'll keep pointing the finger at absolutely anyone except for him. We'll be lucky if he and his ilk are out of power sometime in the next decade.

daveguy 2y ago
Nah. Just talk to people. Not behind a screen. So many more people saying wtf than go Trump.
- ivraatiems 2y ago
  I absolutely do, and I know plenty of folks who will express dismay at these issues on the one hand, then turn around and justify Trump and defend him on the other hand. They literally will not connect the dots. Same for folks who think government is corrupt and broken and so choose a corrupt pro-thing-breaker to lead it.
  - daveguy 2y ago
    Have you tried lately? Since Elon started being a dumbass?
    - Tadpole9181 2y ago
      Of course?
- chairmansteve 2y ago
  The propaganda machine just needs to kick in. They will all be doing Elon salutes in 6 months.
  - daveguy 2y ago
    Do you realize how many people don't give two shits about social media or Elon Musk but love to hear from their friends and family? This is not difficult. There are so many ways to broach the subject. Some examples that I feel: I thought Trump was going to lower grocery prices. Who put Elon in charge of dismantling the US government? Why does Trump want a hotel in Gaza of all the ridiculous things you could possibly want?
    - throwaway657656 2y ago
      Do you realize that this cult has marinated their brain in propaganda, like Fox News, for years/decades and their politic beliefs are now their identity. There is no possible conversion therapy. They have to awake on their own. >>This is not difficult Right! It is impossible not difficult.
      - daveguy 2y ago
        Not even remotely impossible.
    - navane 2y ago
      They literally parrot fox news which is on 24/7 in those households. Whatever are the current lines, they'll repeat them. If your family is on the other side, they don't listen anymore.
      - daveguy 2y ago
        They sure as fuck don't listen if you don't talk to them.
        Tadpole9181 2y ago
        From personal experience, literally none of them have ever listened to me. Not family, not friends. It is never too far and I'm always "misunderstanding" something or they always need to "look into it more". Then the next line gets crossed, the prior thing is now suddenly "not a big deal", and we repeat the cycle.

daveguy 2y ago

Nah. Just talk to people. Not behind a screen. So many more people saying wtf than go Trump.

ivraatiems 2y ago
I absolutely do, and I know plenty of folks who will express dismay at these issues on the one hand, then turn around and justify Trump and defend him on the other hand. They literally will not connect the dots. Same for folks who think government is corrupt and broken and so choose a corrupt pro-thing-breaker to lead it.
- daveguy 2y ago
  Have you tried lately? Since Elon started being a dumbass?
  - Tadpole9181 2y ago
    Of course?
chairmansteve 2y ago
The propaganda machine just needs to kick in. They will all be doing Elon salutes in 6 months.
- daveguy 2y ago
  Do you realize how many people don't give two shits about social media or Elon Musk but love to hear from their friends and family? This is not difficult. There are so many ways to broach the subject. Some examples that I feel: I thought Trump was going to lower grocery prices. Who put Elon in charge of dismantling the US government? Why does Trump want a hotel in Gaza of all the ridiculous things you could possibly want?
  - throwaway657656 2y ago
    Do you realize that this cult has marinated their brain in propaganda, like Fox News, for years/decades and their politic beliefs are now their identity. There is no possible conversion therapy. They have to awake on their own. >>This is not difficult Right! It is impossible not difficult.
    - daveguy 2y ago
      Not even remotely impossible.
  - navane 2y ago
    They literally parrot fox news which is on 24/7 in those households. Whatever are the current lines, they'll repeat them. If your family is on the other side, they don't listen anymore.
    - daveguy 2y ago
      They sure as fuck don't listen if you don't talk to them.
      - Tadpole9181 2y ago
        From personal experience, literally none of them have ever listened to me. Not family, not friends. It is never too far and I'm always "misunderstanding" something or they always need to "look into it more". Then the next line gets crossed, the prior thing is now suddenly "not a big deal", and we repeat the cycle.