That's how I understood Penrose's reasoning too. He differentiated between the computer and whatever is going on in our brain. Computers are just "powerful" eno

That's how I understood Penrose's reasoning too. He differentiated between the computer and whatever is going on in our brain. Computers are just "powerful" enough to encode something that mimics intelligence on the surface (the interviewer tried to pin him on that "something new"), but is still the result of traditional computation, without the involvement of consciousness (his requirement for intelligence).