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It's obvious, isn't it? The average Hacker News user, who has converged to the average Internet user, wants exactly that experience. LLMs are pretty good tools

It's obvious, isn't it? The average Hacker News user, who has converged to the average Internet user, wants exactly that experience. LLMs are pretty good tools but perhaps they shouldn't be made available to others. People like me can use them but others seem to be killed when making contact. I think it's fine to restrict access to the elite. We don't let just anyone fly a fighter jet. Perhaps the average HN user should be protected from LLM interactions.

tombert 2y ago
Is that really what you got from what I wrote? I wasn't suggesting that we restrict access to anyone, and I wasn't trying to imply that I'm somehow immune to the problems that were highlighted. I mentioned that I don't like people-pleasers and I find it a bit obnoxious when ChatGPT does it. I'm sure that there might be other bits of subtle encouragement it gives me that I don't notice, but I can't elaborate on those parts because, you know, I didn't notice them. I genuinely do not know how you got "we should restrict access" from my comment or the parent, you just extrapolated to make a pretty stupid joke.
- renewiltord 2y ago
  Haha, I'm not claiming you're wanting that. I want that. So I'm saying it. What makes you think I was attempting to restate what you wrote?
  - tombert 2y ago
    It looked like you were being sarcastic, implying I was trying to suggest that I thought I was better than the average person in regards to handling AI. Particularly this line: > People like me can use them but others seem to be killed when making contact. If I misread that, fair enough.
    - renewiltord 2y ago
      Yeah, no, 100% sincere personal view. That guy who killed himself after using it is obviously not ready for this. Imagine killing yourself after typing in `print("Kill yourself")` at the Python REPL. The guy's an imbecile. We don't let just anyone drive a truck. I'm fine with nearly everyone being on the outside and unable to use these tools so long as I'm allowed to with as little trouble as possible. I recognize that the view that others should not be permitted things that I should be allowed to use is generally a sarcastically expressed view, but I genuinely think it has merit. Everyone who believes these things are dangerous and everyone to whom this is obviously dangerous, like the aforementioned mentally deficient individual, shouldn't be permitted use.

tombert 2y ago

Is that really what you got from what I wrote? I wasn't suggesting that we restrict access to anyone, and I wasn't trying to imply that I'm somehow immune to the problems that were highlighted. I mentioned that I don't like people-pleasers and I find it a bit obnoxious when ChatGPT does it. I'm sure that there might be other bits of subtle encouragement it gives me that I don't notice, but I can't elaborate on those parts because, you know, I didn't notice them. I genuinely do not know how you got "we should restrict access" from my comment or the parent, you just extrapolated to make a pretty stupid joke.

renewiltord 2y ago
Haha, I'm not claiming you're wanting that. I want that. So I'm saying it. What makes you think I was attempting to restate what you wrote?
- tombert 2y ago
  It looked like you were being sarcastic, implying I was trying to suggest that I thought I was better than the average person in regards to handling AI. Particularly this line: > People like me can use them but others seem to be killed when making contact. If I misread that, fair enough.
  - renewiltord 2y ago
    Yeah, no, 100% sincere personal view. That guy who killed himself after using it is obviously not ready for this. Imagine killing yourself after typing in `print("Kill yourself")` at the Python REPL. The guy's an imbecile. We don't let just anyone drive a truck. I'm fine with nearly everyone being on the outside and unable to use these tools so long as I'm allowed to with as little trouble as possible. I recognize that the view that others should not be permitted things that I should be allowed to use is generally a sarcastically expressed view, but I genuinely think it has merit. Everyone who believes these things are dangerous and everyone to whom this is obviously dangerous, like the aforementioned mentally deficient individual, shouldn't be permitted use.