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> That would be like if every television programme broadcast audio Well. No. It would be more like if every television program was displayed on a screen that h

> That would be like if every television programme broadcast audio Well. No. It would be more like if every television program was displayed on a screen that had a different height, width, and scaling that may depend on the state of the browser at any given moment. Which is in fact the case. And is kind of the point of what we're trying to deal with here. What I do not get for the life of me is why you would introduce a dependency on a deeply obscure user preference that I, as a perfectly literate computer user, would not expect. As opposed to scale, which is completely in your face (and also has an obscure default setting in exactly the same place if that's what the issue is for you). And it's not like there aren't enough dependent variables I have to deal with to make sure that my UI is responsive across all common page sizes my app will encounter without introducing another one, whose benefit, frankly, just doesn't seem that compelling. Asking because I genuinely do not get it.

JimDabell 2y ago
It’s not a deeply obscure user preference, it’s everyday life for millions of people. When you set up a new device, most operating systems have an accessibility step where you can pick the size of the text. That’s the user’s default and a lot of them don’t know how to change it on the fly for individual websites – and they shouldn’t have to because it’s crazy to expect them to adjust their settings every time they visit a new site. When websites fail to respect this, a lot of people simply get locked out of using them. Enough websites do it, and some of these people give up on the web entirely. For elderly people with vision problems, it can be especially isolating. The only thing you have to do here is not do anything. Literally just don’t use fixed font sizes. It takes extra effort to make life worse for people with vision problems. Just… don’t do that. It’s easier than fucking it up.
- rerdavies 2y ago
  Couldn't they just set the operating system's default SCALE instead?

JimDabell 2y ago

It’s not a deeply obscure user preference, it’s everyday life for millions of people. When you set up a new device, most operating systems have an accessibility step where you can pick the size of the text. That’s the user’s default and a lot of them don’t know how to change it on the fly for individual websites – and they shouldn’t have to because it’s crazy to expect them to adjust their settings every time they visit a new site. When websites fail to respect this, a lot of people simply get locked out of using them. Enough websites do it, and some of these people give up on the web entirely. For elderly people with vision problems, it can be especially isolating. The only thing you have to do here is not do anything. Literally just don’t use fixed font sizes. It takes extra effort to make life worse for people with vision problems. Just… don’t do that. It’s easier than fucking it up.

rerdavies 2y ago
Couldn't they just set the operating system's default SCALE instead?