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I found that in ethics classes, a lot of it was holier than thou and virtue signaling instructors preaching but not necessarily practicing. I am not saying all

I found that in ethics classes, a lot of it was holier than thou and virtue signaling instructors preaching but not necessarily practicing. I am not saying all of the instructors and people who teach ethics are bad, this is what I have observed.

gameman144 2y ago
This is interesting to me, none of the ethics classes I've ever taken even had room for a holier-than-thou instructor; they were taught as "here are various ways that people have tried to determine the right thing to do throughout time". A professor saying "And I'm great at doing the right thing" would be as out of place as them bragging about their fitness or wealth.
- protocolture 2y ago
  I remember my equivalent (they called it "Commerce" but it was basically law/politics/ethics) spent some significant time navel gazing at legislation that had directly influenced the private school system we were in. "here are various ways that people have tried to determine the right thing to do throughout time" would have been vastly preferable to "heres how private schools with private funding successfully managed to extort the government for even more funding" Maybe you can consider the teacher to be good because I remember the (many, many) lessons on the topic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulburn_School_Strike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulburn_School_Strike
  - protocolture 2y ago
    I must have gotten downvoted by a diehard goulburn toilet seat strike patrician.
- uxp100 2y ago
  That was my experience as well. OTOH I don’t think ethics classes will magically make the students “more ethical” or something. Might as well let students have a choice of philosophy electives if possible, I don’t think making everyone take ethics is better than making everyone take aesthetics. Although if you were going to have something more concrete, like Engineering Ethics except somehow for high schoolers without a particular career chosen, a few weeks of philosophy would probably be good background.

gameman144 2y ago

This is interesting to me, none of the ethics classes I've ever taken even had room for a holier-than-thou instructor; they were taught as "here are various ways that people have tried to determine the right thing to do throughout time". A professor saying "And I'm great at doing the right thing" would be as out of place as them bragging about their fitness or wealth.

protocolture 2y ago
I remember my equivalent (they called it "Commerce" but it was basically law/politics/ethics) spent some significant time navel gazing at legislation that had directly influenced the private school system we were in. "here are various ways that people have tried to determine the right thing to do throughout time" would have been vastly preferable to "heres how private schools with private funding successfully managed to extort the government for even more funding" Maybe you can consider the teacher to be good because I remember the (many, many) lessons on the topic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulburn_School_Strike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulburn_School_Strike
- protocolture 2y ago
  I must have gotten downvoted by a diehard goulburn toilet seat strike patrician.
uxp100 2y ago
That was my experience as well. OTOH I don’t think ethics classes will magically make the students “more ethical” or something. Might as well let students have a choice of philosophy electives if possible, I don’t think making everyone take ethics is better than making everyone take aesthetics. Although if you were going to have something more concrete, like Engineering Ethics except somehow for high schoolers without a particular career chosen, a few weeks of philosophy would probably be good background.