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these are high schoolers we’re talking about, sure people have used the excuse of the classes not being given but if they were, nearly no one would be intereste

by yapyap 2y ago

these are high schoolers we’re talking about, sure people have used the excuse of the classes not being given but if they were, nearly no one would be interested. also you need to keep budget in mind and the teacher shortage

goodoldneon 2y ago
Looks like you're being downvoted but you're right. A tiny fraction of high school students would actually care about these classes -- high school me wouldn't
- jazzyjackson 2y ago
  I didn't care about English or Geometry either, but I still wish somebody had taught me about quarterly tax estimates for independent contractors. Baking cookies and learning to sew was at least a nice break from studying books.
dawnerd 2y ago
The cooking class at my middle school was insanely popular, same with shop. A surprisingly large number of students also signed up for “consumer math” which was all about taxes, budgeting and such.
- jwagenet 2y ago
  I think consumer math and statistics should be required alternatives to precalc and calc. Maybe even algebra 2.
  - dawnerd 2y ago
    100% agree. I took it and it was the best class. Also taught me how to use excel at a pretty advanced level.
dartos 2y ago
> nearly no one would be interested. I went to a public US high school with a nursing magnet program and an automotive program. Both saw you with a phlebotomist license or a technician certification respectively. These were wildly popular programs despite having academic requirements (for the nursing track) I think high schoolers care about practicality, actually. > also you need to keep budget in mind and the teacher shortage crazy thought, though. Maybe pay teachers more? Make it a more attractive career? Vote in superintendents with more education experience than corporate. Idk… anything but throw your hands up and say “well nobody wants to teach so idk”
- WillPostForFood 2y ago
  Vote in superintendents with more education experience than corporate. I'm sure there are some corporate superintendents, but I've never seen one. It is almost always a teacher's union endorsed ex-teacher who was recently a principal in the district, or a superintendent from another district in the state.
  - fn-mote 2y ago
    > I'm sure there are some corporate superintendents, but I've never seen one Live near a big school district (major metropolitan area), then you will see the corporate and career political types in the CEO office.
    - WillPostForFood 2y ago
      Good point, I was looking up LA and Chicago (NY has many small districts), and oddly both Superintendents have just been fired. Chicago was indeed a "CEO Type", and LA was the teacher principal type.
  - __MatrixMan__ 2y ago
    Around here it's typically somebody who is using involvement in local education as a stepping stone towards a heavier hitting political career. I think things would be much better if they had been teachers, but the teachers are all either burnt out or still teaching.

by yapyap 2y ago

goodoldneon 2y ago

Looks like you're being downvoted but you're right. A tiny fraction of high school students would actually care about these classes -- high school me wouldn't

jazzyjackson 2y ago
I didn't care about English or Geometry either, but I still wish somebody had taught me about quarterly tax estimates for independent contractors. Baking cookies and learning to sew was at least a nice break from studying books.

dawnerd 2y ago

The cooking class at my middle school was insanely popular, same with shop. A surprisingly large number of students also signed up for “consumer math” which was all about taxes, budgeting and such.

jwagenet 2y ago
I think consumer math and statistics should be required alternatives to precalc and calc. Maybe even algebra 2.
- dawnerd 2y ago
  100% agree. I took it and it was the best class. Also taught me how to use excel at a pretty advanced level.

dartos 2y ago

> nearly no one would be interested. I went to a public US high school with a nursing magnet program and an automotive program. Both saw you with a phlebotomist license or a technician certification respectively. These were wildly popular programs despite having academic requirements (for the nursing track) I think high schoolers care about practicality, actually. > also you need to keep budget in mind and the teacher shortage crazy thought, though. Maybe pay teachers more? Make it a more attractive career? Vote in superintendents with more education experience than corporate. Idk… anything but throw your hands up and say “well nobody wants to teach so idk”

WillPostForFood 2y ago
Vote in superintendents with more education experience than corporate. I'm sure there are some corporate superintendents, but I've never seen one. It is almost always a teacher's union endorsed ex-teacher who was recently a principal in the district, or a superintendent from another district in the state.
- fn-mote 2y ago
  > I'm sure there are some corporate superintendents, but I've never seen one Live near a big school district (major metropolitan area), then you will see the corporate and career political types in the CEO office.
  - WillPostForFood 2y ago
    Good point, I was looking up LA and Chicago (NY has many small districts), and oddly both Superintendents have just been fired. Chicago was indeed a "CEO Type", and LA was the teacher principal type.
- __MatrixMan__ 2y ago
  Around here it's typically somebody who is using involvement in local education as a stepping stone towards a heavier hitting political career. I think things would be much better if they had been teachers, but the teachers are all either burnt out or still teaching.