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>> The new terms of service just prevents other people from copying the content of the craigslist ad. Um... >> the exclusive right to enforce copyrights again

>> The new terms of service just prevents other people from copying the content of the craigslist ad. Um... >> the exclusive right to enforce copyrights against anyone copying, republishing, distributing or preparing derivative works without its consent Where does it say anything about "other people?" I mean, I doubt Craigslist would sue an actual user for posting on EBay, but they might send EBay a takedown notice for that content. And if I wrote a piece of software that helped you post the same thing simultaneously on Craigslist and EBay, I bet they'd sue me.

paulgb 14y ago
Interesting point, I believe PadLister can simultaniously post to CL and PM, which may now violate this as well.
Zimahl 14y ago
And if I wrote a piece of software that helped you post the same thing simultaneously on Craigslist and EBay, I bet they'd sue me. That's not what this is about. CL doesn't care where you post it, or how many times you post it. CL just doesn't want others scraping their website and posting it for you. This is direct action on CL against Padmapper.
- gergles 14y ago
  That's great and grand that you've decided that's what they mean. That's not what the forced license grant actually says.
- jonny_eh 14y ago
  How will CL know that an identical ad on CL and another site wasn't scraped, but just double posted by the author? Do you really think CL is just going to politely ask?
  - Zimahl 14y ago
    They aren't going to care about one or two or even 100. When the majority of Padmapper's listings were scraped from CL, that is how we end up with this ToS change. CL told them to knock it off, so Padmapper did an end-around thinking they were ok. CL still didn't think it was kosher so they tightened up their ToS to effectively close the loophole. Do you really think CL is just going to politely ask? They can politely ask the poster and see if they posted it elsewhere. If yes, nothing else needs to be done. If no, they are probably going to find out the extent the external website has gone to.
  - smspence 14y ago
    Since when does eBay scrape and serve up Craigslist ads? Has there been some news that eBay is going to start doing this?
rhizome 14y ago
The "work" is the content as it appears on Craigslist. CL doesn't have exclusive right to the selling of the object, just the content of the ads people post to CL.
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paulgb 14y ago

Interesting point, I believe PadLister can simultaniously post to CL and PM, which may now violate this as well.

Zimahl 14y ago

And if I wrote a piece of software that helped you post the same thing simultaneously on Craigslist and EBay, I bet they'd sue me. That's not what this is about. CL doesn't care where you post it, or how many times you post it. CL just doesn't want others scraping their website and posting it for you. This is direct action on CL against Padmapper.

gergles 14y ago
That's great and grand that you've decided that's what they mean. That's not what the forced license grant actually says.
jonny_eh 14y ago
How will CL know that an identical ad on CL and another site wasn't scraped, but just double posted by the author? Do you really think CL is just going to politely ask?
- Zimahl 14y ago
  They aren't going to care about one or two or even 100. When the majority of Padmapper's listings were scraped from CL, that is how we end up with this ToS change. CL told them to knock it off, so Padmapper did an end-around thinking they were ok. CL still didn't think it was kosher so they tightened up their ToS to effectively close the loophole. Do you really think CL is just going to politely ask? They can politely ask the poster and see if they posted it elsewhere. If yes, nothing else needs to be done. If no, they are probably going to find out the extent the external website has gone to.
- smspence 14y ago
  Since when does eBay scrape and serve up Craigslist ads? Has there been some news that eBay is going to start doing this?

rhizome 14y ago

The "work" is the content as it appears on Craigslist. CL doesn't have exclusive right to the selling of the object, just the content of the ads people post to CL.

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