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I watched the world record speedrun of Subnautica the other day and someone was kind enough to have posted a comment with a full list of all the bugs he exploit

by davedx 2y ago

I watched the world record speedrun of Subnautica the other day and someone was kind enough to have posted a comment with a full list of all the bugs he exploited to beat the game in 28 minutes. It was quite mind boggling. When I played the game I barely encountered a single bug or glitch - it seemed pretty polished! - but in actual fact there were 100’s of outstanding bugs, years after the game’s release and multiple updates.

rat87 2y ago
It's doubtful that there is one piece of software that does anything non trivial that has bugs, even short command line programs. The best we can hope for is that bugs don't seem to cause too many problems.
- eru 2y ago
  > It's doubtful that there is one piece of software that does anything non trivial that has bugs, even short command line programs. TeX and Metafont and other Knuth programs come pretty close. There's also programs that have been proven correct. (And the proof systems themselves are usually fairly small and can have multiple independent implementations. Or at least the core of these systems that everything hinges on.)
oasisaimlessly 2y ago
I assume this is the speedrun you're talking about: https://www.speedrun.com/subnautica/runs/ylp925xm https://www.speedrun.com/subnautica/runs/ylp925xm If you look in the top-right corner at 0:19, the build being played is "Sep-2018 61056", strange for a Dec 2024 speedrun. Presumably that specific old version was used because the glitches it relies on have been fixed in current versions.
- chc4 2y ago
  A lot of speedruns will not only use specific versions of online patchable games, but old games will have players use specifically Japanese or European physical copies for the same reason: there are glitches that are only present on the Japanese version of Pokemon Red/Blue that were fixed for the NA release, for example. Some of the time it gets really weird, like people specifically using the Wii Virtual Console re-release of a game in order to take advantage of its emulator being different from physical hardware - which is (usually) allowed, because it's still an "official release".
  - n_plus_1_acc 2y ago
    Sometimes simply because the japanese Text is shorter, taking less time to display. And there are also games that run at different speeds on NTSC vs PAL versions.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
  Wait, does this mean it is possible to disable the quarantine gun and board the rescue ship instead of building your own rocket?

by davedx 2y ago

rat87 2y ago

It's doubtful that there is one piece of software that does anything non trivial that has bugs, even short command line programs. The best we can hope for is that bugs don't seem to cause too many problems.

eru 2y ago
> It's doubtful that there is one piece of software that does anything non trivial that has bugs, even short command line programs. TeX and Metafont and other Knuth programs come pretty close. There's also programs that have been proven correct. (And the proof systems themselves are usually fairly small and can have multiple independent implementations. Or at least the core of these systems that everything hinges on.)

oasisaimlessly 2y ago

I assume this is the speedrun you're talking about: https://www.speedrun.com/subnautica/runs/ylp925xm https://www.speedrun.com/subnautica/runs/ylp925xm If you look in the top-right corner at 0:19, the build being played is "Sep-2018 61056", strange for a Dec 2024 speedrun. Presumably that specific old version was used because the glitches it relies on have been fixed in current versions.

chc4 2y ago
A lot of speedruns will not only use specific versions of online patchable games, but old games will have players use specifically Japanese or European physical copies for the same reason: there are glitches that are only present on the Japanese version of Pokemon Red/Blue that were fixed for the NA release, for example. Some of the time it gets really weird, like people specifically using the Wii Virtual Console re-release of a game in order to take advantage of its emulator being different from physical hardware - which is (usually) allowed, because it's still an "official release".
- n_plus_1_acc 2y ago
  Sometimes simply because the japanese Text is shorter, taking less time to display. And there are also games that run at different speeds on NTSC vs PAL versions.
0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
Wait, does this mean it is possible to disable the quarantine gun and board the rescue ship instead of building your own rocket?