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Show HN: Tangled – Git collaboration platform built on atproto

173 points by icy 2y ago

snthpy 2y ago
Thanks for this. Looks cool! I see you mentioned Radicle. What are the major differences compared to Radicle? Having read just the blog post I would guess it's the source of the identity as a start, so you can use users' existing atproto did s whereas Radicle has to bootstrap a whole new identity web.
0x4FFC8F 2y ago
Great work guys! Haven't had a chance to look into atproto and bluesky, but now because of tangled I will.
linwangg 2y ago
To attract new users, does Tangled plan to offer detailed documentation or migration tools from other Git platforms?
imoverclocked 2y ago
How does authorization work? Is everything pull-only or can you push to someone’s knot?
- icy 2y ago
  Hey, you can indeed push to someone’s knot if they’ve invited you on it. The knot server will automatically populate your ssh pubkeys (if you’ve added them) allowing you to push. :)
xnxt 2y ago
did you consider integrating atproto with Radicle? if no, why not?
- nsteel 2y ago
  The second paragraph of their blog posts suggests Radicle doesn't support central identity. It's really hard to imagine one of the core concepts of Radicle bending (breaking) to allow that.
  - CGamesPlay 2y ago
    Building on this, I think Radicle would be described as "peer-to-peer", whereas something like Tangled is "federated". The article differentiates Tangled from other federated systems by saying that you can use a "centralized" ID using AT Protocol, but I don't know if the ID provider itself is centralized, centralized-but-self-hostable, or federated.
    - reticulan 2y ago
      atproto uses the DID system, which precedes it by a few years. at the moment, 99% of atproto users have a centralized id from the did:plc database, and a few dozen use did:web. no other DID methods are supported in the tooling yet afaik.
evanjrowley 2y ago
I'd like to make a feature request for Dark Mode
- mdaniel 2y ago
  Populating https://tangled.sh/@tangled.sh/core/issues/new https://tangled.sh/@tangled.sh/core/issues/new is more likely to get traction than a HN comment
  - evanjrowley 2y ago
    Without giving away too much information here, there is a legitimate reason why I cannot do that at this time.
- icy 2y ago
  Noted!
nanomonkey 2y ago
Reminds me of git-ssb (git collaboration on top of Secure Scuttlebutt). https://github.com/hackergrrl/git-ssb-intro https://github.com/hackergrrl/git-ssb-intro
- verdverm 2y ago
  There is also https://github.com/google/git-appraise https://github.com/google/git-appraise which uses git-notes and a plugin (with UI server included)

173 points by icy 2y ago

Thanks for this. Looks cool! I see you mentioned Radicle. What are the major differences compared to Radicle? Having read just the blog post I would guess it's the source of the identity as a start, so you can use users' existing atproto did s whereas Radicle has to bootstrap a whole new identity web.

0x4FFC8F 2y ago

Great work guys! Haven't had a chance to look into atproto and bluesky, but now because of tangled I will.

linwangg 2y ago

To attract new users, does Tangled plan to offer detailed documentation or migration tools from other Git platforms?

imoverclocked 2y ago

How does authorization work? Is everything pull-only or can you push to someone’s knot?

icy 2y ago
Hey, you can indeed push to someone’s knot if they’ve invited you on it. The knot server will automatically populate your ssh pubkeys (if you’ve added them) allowing you to push. :)

xnxt 2y ago

did you consider integrating atproto with Radicle? if no, why not?

nsteel 2y ago
The second paragraph of their blog posts suggests Radicle doesn't support central identity. It's really hard to imagine one of the core concepts of Radicle bending (breaking) to allow that.
- CGamesPlay 2y ago
  Building on this, I think Radicle would be described as "peer-to-peer", whereas something like Tangled is "federated". The article differentiates Tangled from other federated systems by saying that you can use a "centralized" ID using AT Protocol, but I don't know if the ID provider itself is centralized, centralized-but-self-hostable, or federated.
  - reticulan 2y ago
    atproto uses the DID system, which precedes it by a few years. at the moment, 99% of atproto users have a centralized id from the did:plc database, and a few dozen use did:web. no other DID methods are supported in the tooling yet afaik.

evanjrowley 2y ago

I'd like to make a feature request for Dark Mode

mdaniel 2y ago
Populating https://tangled.sh/@tangled.sh/core/issues/new https://tangled.sh/@tangled.sh/core/issues/new is more likely to get traction than a HN comment
- evanjrowley 2y ago
  Without giving away too much information here, there is a legitimate reason why I cannot do that at this time.
icy 2y ago
Noted!

nanomonkey 2y ago

Reminds me of git-ssb (git collaboration on top of Secure Scuttlebutt). https://github.com/hackergrrl/git-ssb-intro https://github.com/hackergrrl/git-ssb-intro

verdverm 2y ago
There is also https://github.com/google/git-appraise https://github.com/google/git-appraise which uses git-notes and a plugin (with UI server included)