Yeah, there's definitely shades. I think for most games the people who find glitches and drive forward this kind of research usually aren't actually that good o

Yeah, there's definitely shades. I think for most games the people who find glitches and drive forward this kind of research usually aren't actually that good of runners themselves. But for TAS runs, where there isn't as much of human skill component and technical execution is more important, they're usually closer aligned. And in any case the speedrunners and glitch discovery people are all in the same discords together talking about the game.