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If the board of my company (my CEO’s boss) showed up in Slack and asked, I would probably listen to my CEO’s boss. And what a poor CEO for risking his entire wo

by dcow 2y ago

If the board of my company (my CEO’s boss) showed up in Slack and asked, I would probably listen to my CEO’s boss. And what a poor CEO for risking his entire workforce and his own position on a political squabble.

sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago
I think it's a great moment for the CEO to have a spine and show the stupidity of the board in that moment. "To the board: if you have this level of distrust for my management, you should fire me immediately. This request is out of line, and shows great disrespect for our employees as well as myself. If you are dissatisfied with the information you receive about the company's operations and performance, you can talk to me and my staff about that. I will not allow you to display such callous disregard for the people under my leadership."
- dcow 2y ago
  I’m sure this great CEO will continue to be a great leader under other management, then. We’ll see if Cuban actually follows through on his offer or if it’s just political virtue signaling.
yongjik 2y ago
> If the board of my company (my CEO’s boss) showed up in Slack and asked ... You would write "Ask HN: my company has thousands of employees, a board member showed up in Slack and told everyone to write him a weekly summary, or we'll be fired, what to do?" and everybody would be like "WTF that's beyond stupid, name the company, also it's time to polish your resume!" yada yada. Don't be obtuse.
sarchertech 2y ago
What if the CEO was just put in place by the chairman of the board. As was the case for many of the agencies that told their employees not to respond. And it’s not the board that send the emails, it’s a committee created by the board. It’s unclear whether OPM has the authority to order employees to do anything. The real way to do this. If it was what they actually wanted to happen was for the president to issue an executive order requiring everyone to logon to a secure site and fill out a form. Then give some kind of reasonable deadline that makes allowances for people on PTO or leave.
sgarland 2y ago
That’s not how well-functioning organizations operate. Power is delegated, and if it’s publicly undercut, there is a loss of trust in leadership. If a board wants something done, they can urge the CEO to implement it, but they do not hold unilateral power to dictate internal operations. They can vote to remove the CEO if they feel that they aren’t producing the desired result, but again, this is an indirect action.
troupo 2y ago
> If the board of my company (my CEO’s boss) showed up in Slack and asked, I would probably listen to my CEO’s boss. DOGE are not the boss of most (any?) government departments. Its entire purpose, legally, is to improve software: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/esta... So once again, who are they to ask this, legally? Who are they to fire employees from other departments who rightfully deny this request?

by dcow 2y ago

sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago

I think it's a great moment for the CEO to have a spine and show the stupidity of the board in that moment. "To the board: if you have this level of distrust for my management, you should fire me immediately. This request is out of line, and shows great disrespect for our employees as well as myself. If you are dissatisfied with the information you receive about the company's operations and performance, you can talk to me and my staff about that. I will not allow you to display such callous disregard for the people under my leadership."

dcow 2y ago
I’m sure this great CEO will continue to be a great leader under other management, then. We’ll see if Cuban actually follows through on his offer or if it’s just political virtue signaling.

yongjik 2y ago

> If the board of my company (my CEO’s boss) showed up in Slack and asked ... You would write "Ask HN: my company has thousands of employees, a board member showed up in Slack and told everyone to write him a weekly summary, or we'll be fired, what to do?" and everybody would be like "WTF that's beyond stupid, name the company, also it's time to polish your resume!" yada yada. Don't be obtuse.

sarchertech 2y ago

What if the CEO was just put in place by the chairman of the board. As was the case for many of the agencies that told their employees not to respond. And it’s not the board that send the emails, it’s a committee created by the board. It’s unclear whether OPM has the authority to order employees to do anything. The real way to do this. If it was what they actually wanted to happen was for the president to issue an executive order requiring everyone to logon to a secure site and fill out a form. Then give some kind of reasonable deadline that makes allowances for people on PTO or leave.

sgarland 2y ago

That’s not how well-functioning organizations operate. Power is delegated, and if it’s publicly undercut, there is a loss of trust in leadership. If a board wants something done, they can urge the CEO to implement it, but they do not hold unilateral power to dictate internal operations. They can vote to remove the CEO if they feel that they aren’t producing the desired result, but again, this is an indirect action.

troupo 2y ago

> If the board of my company (my CEO’s boss) showed up in Slack and asked, I would probably listen to my CEO’s boss. DOGE are not the boss of most (any?) government departments. Its entire purpose, legally, is to improve software: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/esta... So once again, who are they to ask this, legally? Who are they to fire employees from other departments who rightfully deny this request?