> I don't think it's fair to say they haven't continue driving innovation since 2010 I don't know about "driving" but that's the norm for Apple. Certainly pitc

> I don't think it's fair to say they haven't continue driving innovation since 2010 I don't know about "driving" but that's the norm for Apple. Certainly pitched in - and from that point of view, it's not fair to only count successes. So Vision Pro of course belongs to the list: Apple was not the only company working on something in that general direction but a ton of work went into it. Same for the car effort: just because we are not seeing it doesn't mean it wasn't done and the lessons learned by a massive pile of engineers. And this continues with a pile of software feature efforts (payment?) and fights for users' rights (encryption?). With its share of unfortunate directions (CSAM?). Just because a project is not hardware and a smashing success doesn't mean it didn't get done.