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> The web is heading in a shitty direction anyway, so moving slower is better. I completely agree, though what I believe would happen if Firefox went to mainte

by palata 2y ago

> The web is heading in a shitty direction anyway, so moving slower is better. I completely agree, though what I believe would happen if Firefox went to maintenance mode is that fewer and fewer websites would work on it. It's already the case that I sometimes need to switch to Chromium to do some things because those shitty websites only work on Chromium.

hedora 2y ago
They could partner with Apple. As long as the courts don’t force Apple to allow Chromium on iOS, those shitty web sites will work on safari. Firefox tends to be ahead of safari in new features. As an iOS user, I am happy that I cannot install alternative browsers. If I could, those shitty websites would force me to install Chrome. I currently have zero google branded apps on my phone. (Some third party apps that I need bundle google tracking crap…) Edit: I guess I should add that I prefer Firefox to Safari, but I’ve watched devs try to only support Safari and Chrome. Once they do that, they almost always accidentally support Firefox too.
bee_rider 2y ago
The main problem with Chrome is that anything you do in it goes into Google’s surveillance network (or at least you can’t prove that it doesn’t). If some sites require Chrome, we can use Chrome just for those sites (and vote with our feet, not very many websites are really necessary). A web browser sitting on the disk not running most of the time probably isn’t a huge problem. A lot of the internet doesn’t even need JavaScript enabled. I think we over-state the compatibility nightmare. I mean it depends on your use patterns of course…
- palata 2y ago
  I can live without many of those bad websites (or rather "webapps"). But what's annoying me right now is that it happens more and more that passkeys work with Chromium but not Firefox. And I want passkeys (well, I want to log in with my Yubikeys).

by palata 2y ago

hedora 2y ago

They could partner with Apple. As long as the courts don’t force Apple to allow Chromium on iOS, those shitty web sites will work on safari. Firefox tends to be ahead of safari in new features. As an iOS user, I am happy that I cannot install alternative browsers. If I could, those shitty websites would force me to install Chrome. I currently have zero google branded apps on my phone. (Some third party apps that I need bundle google tracking crap…) Edit: I guess I should add that I prefer Firefox to Safari, but I’ve watched devs try to only support Safari and Chrome. Once they do that, they almost always accidentally support Firefox too.

bee_rider 2y ago

The main problem with Chrome is that anything you do in it goes into Google’s surveillance network (or at least you can’t prove that it doesn’t). If some sites require Chrome, we can use Chrome just for those sites (and vote with our feet, not very many websites are really necessary). A web browser sitting on the disk not running most of the time probably isn’t a huge problem. A lot of the internet doesn’t even need JavaScript enabled. I think we over-state the compatibility nightmare. I mean it depends on your use patterns of course…

palata 2y ago
I can live without many of those bad websites (or rather "webapps"). But what's annoying me right now is that it happens more and more that passkeys work with Chromium but not Firefox. And I want passkeys (well, I want to log in with my Yubikeys).