I have no problem with the word "we". I have concerns with where people draw the line between "we" and "them". I find nothing weasel-like with stating "Soviet

I have no problem with the word "we". I have concerns with where people draw the line between "we" and "them". I find nothing weasel-like with stating "Soviet engineers created the F-1 nuclear reactor in...". It's perfectly accurate. Saying "We created..." is rubbish. I mean, are you suggesting all Germans shouldn't be bothered saying "we killed 6 million Jews in the Holocaust"? Is that less frightening that the alternative "Hitler's regime killed 6 million Jews in the Holocaust"? I think your examples are contrived. The coach/trainer/owner says "We did it!" as a shortened colloquial form of "we achieved our goal of obtaining a victory!". I'm talking about people who sit on the couch watching a game, who have never attended a match or contributed anything to the team they 'support', and say "we won". I'm not saying there's anything bad with that, just I find it strange. Many of my closest friends do it and I tease them for it - just like they tease me for only being interested in the team/individual performance/strategy. All I did was point out that people seem to (conveniently) identify with "we" when it reinforces a positive self-identity and some people choose not to identify when it reinforces a negative self-identity, which does make me wonder how healthy their identity is as a consequence, and I personally find the consequences of this unappealing. Sure this can be mostly harmless e.g. in the case of sports, but it is identifying with a group psychologically and somewhat irrationally in my opinion and it's something I don't find natural.