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I'm going to regret this, I bet, but here we go: Many years ago I was the manager of the team inside NIH/CIT that ran both the border firewalls and the DNS serv

by g-clef 2y ago

I'm going to regret this, I bet, but here we go: Many years ago I was the manager of the team inside NIH/CIT that ran both the border firewalls and the DNS servers in question (to be specific, at the time it was NIH/CIT/DNST/NEB/NSS). Obviously, since I'm not there anymore I don't have any special inside information, but given that the DNS servers were responding to TCP and not UDP during the outage, my bet would be a simple firewall screwup, rather than malice. Stuff happens - maintenances have unintended consequences, people typo stuff, etc. Don't freak out about every event - save your powder for the real outrages (like 18F).

bryancoxwell 2y ago
Editing to remove an unproductive comment.
- zmgsabst 2y ago
  And you believe that DOGE employees are tweaking firewall rules at NIH IT?
  - bryancoxwell 2y ago
    Like the vast majority of Americans, I have no idea what DOGE is actually doing.
    - brigandish 2y ago
      Then why speculate when we have a real expert responding on the thread?
      - dcow 2y ago
        This is exactly how the HN community responded to Twitter, too. The amount of baseless speculation paraded as fact is crazy for a supposedly rationalist community.
        nick__m 2y ago
        HN is not rationalist community, there is a plurality of opinions and it is part of what make this site great. Another important part is the excellent moderation that try to insure civil discussions.
        dcow 2y ago
        The post-election HN community has been very different of late, at least on political topics. I’ve been here quite a while.
        AlecSchueler 2y ago
        The world has been different since January. People are taking sides quickly and rightly so.
        brigandish 2y ago
        Maybe if I remembered or looked at how HN handled Trump's first election win then I'd have a more accurate impression, but both the Twitter/Musk takeover and now Trump's win and DOGE seem to have sent a lot of people into strange hysteria that I've rarely seen on HN. I just want people to calm down and provide better commentary but I think that would be downvoted to hell with responses like "don't you know <insert apocalyptic event here> is happening? Are you <select from stupid/bigoted/evil>?" The other day, I had a chat with a friend (IRL) and he told me his friend told him that planes are falling from the sky because Trump had fired all the air traffic controllers (which, as Trump would put it, is fake news, driven by irresponsible headlines). The commentary here is on that, very low, very misguided, tribal (not even partisan, worse) and very unhelpful level. That's not the kind of plurality of opinion HN needs, in my opinion.
        AlecSchueler 2y ago
        The first election was very different as he had more accountability in the other branches of government. Now we are seeing Nazi salutes right from the inauguration, the alienation of every ally, the opening of mass detention centres outside the US, executive orders to place himself above the courts while siding with Putin, and unofficially created branches of government acting without oversight to dismantle large swathes of the state. The reaction is completely different because the reality is completely different. People are "hysterical" because we grew up with the explicit agreement that we wouldn't let these things happen again and now the systems which we built to prevent it are rapidly falling apart. When facism comes knocking at the door the time for plurality of opinion is gone, there are only two sides here and only one of them is in any way a moral choice.
      - bryancoxwell 2y ago
        I’ve thought about it and you’re right, this was just confirmation bias on my part. There is in fact no evidence that DOGE is in any way involved. Apologies.
        brigandish 2y ago
        I've popped back to this thread again (in the midst of another argument:) and noticed you've edited a preceding comment (perhaps unnecessarily but certainly magnanimously), which, along with this apology, I think, shows you in a good light and HN in general. Thank you, it's so good to see people being reasonable in amongst the tribalism.
henryway 2y ago
18F?
- vaylian 2y ago
  See https://18f.org/ https://18f.org/

by g-clef 2y ago

bryancoxwell 2y ago

Editing to remove an unproductive comment.

zmgsabst 2y ago
And you believe that DOGE employees are tweaking firewall rules at NIH IT?
- bryancoxwell 2y ago
  Like the vast majority of Americans, I have no idea what DOGE is actually doing.
  - brigandish 2y ago
    Then why speculate when we have a real expert responding on the thread?
    - dcow 2y ago
      This is exactly how the HN community responded to Twitter, too. The amount of baseless speculation paraded as fact is crazy for a supposedly rationalist community.
      - nick__m 2y ago
        HN is not rationalist community, there is a plurality of opinions and it is part of what make this site great. Another important part is the excellent moderation that try to insure civil discussions.
        dcow 2y ago
        The post-election HN community has been very different of late, at least on political topics. I’ve been here quite a while.
        AlecSchueler 2y ago
        The world has been different since January. People are taking sides quickly and rightly so.
        brigandish 2y ago
        Maybe if I remembered or looked at how HN handled Trump's first election win then I'd have a more accurate impression, but both the Twitter/Musk takeover and now Trump's win and DOGE seem to have sent a lot of people into strange hysteria that I've rarely seen on HN. I just want people to calm down and provide better commentary but I think that would be downvoted to hell with responses like "don't you know <insert apocalyptic event here> is happening? Are you <select from stupid/bigoted/evil>?" The other day, I had a chat with a friend (IRL) and he told me his friend told him that planes are falling from the sky because Trump had fired all the air traffic controllers (which, as Trump would put it, is fake news, driven by irresponsible headlines). The commentary here is on that, very low, very misguided, tribal (not even partisan, worse) and very unhelpful level. That's not the kind of plurality of opinion HN needs, in my opinion.
        AlecSchueler 2y ago
        The first election was very different as he had more accountability in the other branches of government. Now we are seeing Nazi salutes right from the inauguration, the alienation of every ally, the opening of mass detention centres outside the US, executive orders to place himself above the courts while siding with Putin, and unofficially created branches of government acting without oversight to dismantle large swathes of the state. The reaction is completely different because the reality is completely different. People are "hysterical" because we grew up with the explicit agreement that we wouldn't let these things happen again and now the systems which we built to prevent it are rapidly falling apart. When facism comes knocking at the door the time for plurality of opinion is gone, there are only two sides here and only one of them is in any way a moral choice.
    - bryancoxwell 2y ago
      I’ve thought about it and you’re right, this was just confirmation bias on my part. There is in fact no evidence that DOGE is in any way involved. Apologies.
      - brigandish 2y ago
        I've popped back to this thread again (in the midst of another argument:) and noticed you've edited a preceding comment (perhaps unnecessarily but certainly magnanimously), which, along with this apology, I think, shows you in a good light and HN in general. Thank you, it's so good to see people being reasonable in amongst the tribalism.

henryway 2y ago

18F?

vaylian 2y ago
See https://18f.org/ https://18f.org/