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You don't make examples of people. You treat them equally by the law. You do not put people in solitary confinement for nine days - or twenty days - and witho
by casenmgreen 2y ago
You don't make examples of people.
You treat them equally by the law.
You do not put people in solitary confinement for nine days - or twenty days - and without giving them any idea of what is happening, or notifying anyone where they are. This is cruel and unusual punishment.
- alephnerd 2y ago[flagged]
- madeofpalk 2y agoIt is astonishing that your response to people facing injustice is that more people should face injustice.
- homebrewer 2y agoNo, he's just pointing out the double standards, and I agree with this sentiment. It's very difficult to visit the US (or really any Western country) with my passport, and always has been. You have to put in a lot of money and collect many pieces of paper for even a tourist visit (forget about working there or — god forbid — trying to legally immigrate), and there's a large chance you will be denied regardless. Nobody gives a flying fuck about this.
- chronos00 2y agoThe outrage here is that she was detained. One thing is to be denied entry even when you did everything right, another is to be detained for an indefinite period of time.
- alephnerd 2y agoYep. Becuase I'm tired of this holier than thou crap. It's very easy to follow visa laws as a German national to the US. You don't face any of the same amounts of hurdles that non-Western nationals face. And your countries would treat us the same if we didn't have a US passport (I remember those experiences in Frankfurt Airport before and after I got the American passport)
- elric 2y ago[flagged]
- alephnerd 2y agoBecause EU nations aren't going to change their attitude, and would continue to treat non-western passport holders in the same way as her. Maybe now Germans know how it feels for a Turkish or Moroccan national who is working on a visit or family visa and looking behind their shoulder.
- 0HATDfa 2y agoWe have known a long time already. This was under the Biden administration: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/08/australian-traveller-strip-searched-held-in-us-prison-and-deported-over-little-known-entry-requirement https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/08/australian-t... You will be happy to know that the detained person was a White Australian. By the way, whenever I see pictures of US border patrol officers, many of them are not White.
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- alephnerd 2y ago[flagged]
- dang 2y agoI'm sure you have legitimate reasons to be frustrated, and have been describing things that really happen and double standards that really exist. At the same time, perpetuating race war on HN, which is what your comments in this thread are doing, is not ok. It only makes things worse, so please stop and please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html p.s. The people breaking the site guidelines in response to you ought not to have been doing that either, of course. I've responded to those now, or at least most of them.
- czzr 2y agoI grew up with an even worse passport than you, so I know first hand how people are treated. Still, the goal should be to treat everyone better, not make things equal by treating everyone like shit.