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My needs are: - I like Safari as a browser and can live with it - at least on Mac and Safari. But goodness, its sync and almost anything it does with iCloud is

My needs are: - I like Safari as a browser and can live with it - at least on Mac and Safari. But goodness, its sync and almost anything it does with iCloud is atrocious. Now, Apple being Apple they definitely wouldn’t let anyone else fix that. - I also need to use Android where I use Safari. I would happily ditch Safari and Firefox if I can use a browser (without crypto shenanigans, edgy UI) all I need are: - robust sync (tab, bookmarks, and if possible preferences) across platforms (at least between iOS and Mac; and I repeat, no Safari/iCloud isn’t that) - Decent tracking/ad blocking. Doesn’t have to be top notch - Snappy - I am fine with closed source because I have been using Safari all these years

qskousen 2y ago
I would recommend Vivaldi then. I've been using it for half a year and it's pretty good.
- crossroadsguy 2y ago
  I tried it for last two days and then uninstalled it. Didn't click. But I found Vivaldi much (!!) better than Brave. I am trying Orion now based on a comment here. Let's see how it goes.
mitchell209 2y ago
The only thing that saves Safari syncing for me is the tab groups. iCloud automatic syncing is terrible. I'm pretty sure it's not even syncing my iPad's open tabs for some reason and I have no idea how to start troubleshooting it except for removing my iCloud account and then signing back in.
- crossroadsguy 2y ago
  I mean it's just pathetic. I see tabs that I closed from both Mac and iPhone months ago and it had stopped showing up in iCloud Tabs and then it decides to show up again. This is just one among the countless problems. The point is such problems are so old - years/decades - that you know 1. Apple doesn't want to fix it, 2. Apple is not capable of fixing it. I really think both 1 and 2 are correct. I wish Apple just made great and safe hardware let the software be handled by entities with software expertise. By the way someone suggested Orion. I think it has tabs. Might want to try.
bradley_taunt 2y ago
The Orion browser has been great for me on MacOS and iOS. It won’t help you with your Android requirement, but every other point is covered! (Allows for Firefox / Chrome extensions too)
- crossroadsguy 2y ago
  I will give it a try. The icon reminds me of an old browser called Camino (if I remember the name correctly). I loved that browser. A quick notice: I opted to play the intro video and the video was completely useless, without any control or a way to exit or anything at all. Luckily it didn't go for mins but it was also not like a splash screen. Honestly that is not a very good first impression imho. But the interface is very promising. Doesn't look "odd" on Mac the way I feel on Brave or even Safari. Will give it a shot. Imported everything from Safari except passwords.

qskousen 2y ago

I would recommend Vivaldi then. I've been using it for half a year and it's pretty good.

crossroadsguy 2y ago
I tried it for last two days and then uninstalled it. Didn't click. But I found Vivaldi much (!!) better than Brave. I am trying Orion now based on a comment here. Let's see how it goes.

mitchell209 2y ago

The only thing that saves Safari syncing for me is the tab groups. iCloud automatic syncing is terrible. I'm pretty sure it's not even syncing my iPad's open tabs for some reason and I have no idea how to start troubleshooting it except for removing my iCloud account and then signing back in.

crossroadsguy 2y ago
I mean it's just pathetic. I see tabs that I closed from both Mac and iPhone months ago and it had stopped showing up in iCloud Tabs and then it decides to show up again. This is just one among the countless problems. The point is such problems are so old - years/decades - that you know 1. Apple doesn't want to fix it, 2. Apple is not capable of fixing it. I really think both 1 and 2 are correct. I wish Apple just made great and safe hardware let the software be handled by entities with software expertise. By the way someone suggested Orion. I think it has tabs. Might want to try.

bradley_taunt 2y ago

The Orion browser has been great for me on MacOS and iOS. It won’t help you with your Android requirement, but every other point is covered! (Allows for Firefox / Chrome extensions too)

crossroadsguy 2y ago
I will give it a try. The icon reminds me of an old browser called Camino (if I remember the name correctly). I loved that browser. A quick notice: I opted to play the intro video and the video was completely useless, without any control or a way to exit or anything at all. Luckily it didn't go for mins but it was also not like a splash screen. Honestly that is not a very good first impression imho. But the interface is very promising. Doesn't look "odd" on Mac the way I feel on Brave or even Safari. Will give it a shot. Imported everything from Safari except passwords.